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Bad temper!

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jenpax Sun 05-Jul-20 09:16:16

I have recently (last year) started the menopause (I think!) my main issue is that I am extremely irritable/intolerant and inclined to loose my rag at the slightest thing. I absolutely hate feeling this way and it’s adding to my lowered self esteem that has sadly come for me with getting a bit older.
Does anyone have any advice about the bad temper! Have you had the same issue or is it unusual? I don’t (luckily) get hot flushes but the bad temper is pretty debilitating, and to be honest is making me depressed.
I am not sure about HRT, as we have various family medical problems which made my GP cautious about recommending it when I spoke to him on the phone,but I would be willing to consider it if it might make my moods better!

timetogo2016 Sun 05-Jul-20 10:31:16

You are not alone jenpax.
I used to throw a wobbler at pretty much anything until i realised what i was doing and who i was hurting.
I managed to stop and control myself so good look.

Disgruntled Sun 05-Jul-20 10:34:20

Doesn't HRT just delay the inevitable? and come with risks. I highly recommend Agnus Castus, which is very effective for any hormonal problem and is a natural herb.

NambyPamby Sun 05-Jul-20 10:49:25

Thankyou, I thought it might help with mood swings.
Can you get oestrogen without going to the dr ?
I had a test about 6months ago and wasnt menopausal.
But I'm very irritable so I thought I'd follow these posts.
Thankyou

SJV07 Sun 05-Jul-20 10:50:59

To All who have hot flushes, etc, I used Lachesis, a homeopathic remedy to some effect. Hope it works.

anxiousgran Sun 05-Jul-20 11:03:22

I would enquire further about HRT, but try some of the herbal
suggestions first. The ones I tried made not a ha’porth of difference for me, but my problem was awful hot sweats. I know other women who swear by them though.

Would you consider mindfulness? I have found it so beneficial in all aspects of my mood and outlook.

There are plenty of courses on line.
FutureLearn have an excellent free one. They are aligned to the Open University. You may be able to find a course locally, but I preferred to practice on line.

All sympathy to to you, the menopause can be miserable. I hope things improve for you.

Tree58 Sun 05-Jul-20 11:03:24

There’s lots of good advice here, but one thing I would say is talk to your partner/family. The more you all talk about it, and the more informed you all are, the better your lives will be. An understanding and well informed partner and family will make all the difference.

EllanVannin Sun 05-Jul-20 11:14:53

Bloomin' awful ! I didn't know what the dickens had hit me as having been a fit and very active person, working at the time in the hospital always using the stairs and not the lift, good diet etc etc. then reduced to a crumbling wreck with migraines on a daily basis !

Very debilitating, and used to make me heave. After heaving, they'd go ? Until the next time ! This went on for 7 weeks before I went to the GP who admitted me to a neurological hospital in the early 80's where I had every test imaginable where the consultant said it was to do with, what he called, the " basement, and not the attic ". In other words, in Cissie's words----women's problems.

One particular GP had shown interest in my symptoms and I saw him on a regular basis where he'd said that there was a correlation between migraines and heart disease/ circulation. All I wanted was something very strong to stop them as paracetamol and migraleve had no effect unless I took more than my allotted dose ( which I did many a time)

To cut a long story short, this clever young doctor had a seizure in his surgery one morning and died ! That was the end of my visits to the surgery as far as I was concerned and I could count on one hand the times I've been over the last 20 years. Therefore I never got to know any more at what was going on in my body.

I wasn't bad-tempered, just damned ill but carried on working from when this happened at age 50 until I was 60 when it was fizzling out. Lost a lot of weight too, then again, I can lose weight at the drop of a hat if/when I'm unwell.

Prior to the migraines I'd never suffered with headaches at all, then made up for it with nearly 10 years suffering migraines. I used to have 4 paracetamol in one go ! The worst part was not getting any more help but like with everything else I battled through.

Maybe if I'd been bad-tempered it would have got everything out of my system ? It would seem this is the lesser of the two evils---being ratty as opposed to being ill. I wished !

grannie7 Sun 05-Jul-20 11:15:14

Jenpax
While HRT does improve your life,I would think very carefully about it.
I took it for over 25 years because of my job.I dealt with MD’s and CEO’s every day and was very embarrassed with water running down my face with the hot flushes.I eventually came of it after 2 bouts of bc and one of overian c.
Coming off was worse than not taking it.I got all the symptoms back 10 fold and now at 76 I am still getting hot flushes nighttime as well I won’t list the all too long a list
I have wishes 100 times I had never taken it.But reading here of ladies taking it for just a few years may be the answer.
If I was you now I would try all the herbal things first
try and manage it without HRT.Its not an easy decision but take your time explain to your family that your not well and your sorry if you get angry etc.
As everyone else has said talk to your doctor make sure you get all the facts no one told me what would happen when I stopped taking it especially as it’s quite common.
Very best wishes to you with what ever you decide ??

Juicylucy Sun 05-Jul-20 11:16:22

If any of you ladies are on Instagram there is a menopause doctor I follow. You can find her by searching menopause_ doctor.
She gives talks and offers so much advise as she specialises in the subject and it’s all free . If you don’t do Instagram try googling her, her name is Dr Louise Newsome.

Rocknroll5me Sun 05-Jul-20 11:16:57

yeh my body loved oestrogen - looked great felt great hair great ... couldn't tolerate progestogen..made me depressed so I found HRT with minimum of latter, highest of former great ......and then I got oestrogen dependent breast cancer...so none since then. And Tamoxifen which is given after surgery and radiotherapy, if you're lucky enough not to have had it mestastize and have to have chemo, - well that completly stops all oestrogen...so I'd be wary of boosting it at menopause...as oestrogen-dependent breast cancer is the most common type, post-menopause. sorry about that.

Juicylucy Sun 05-Jul-20 11:19:16

CORRECTION to my last post her name is Newson and not Newsome. Founder of Newson health.

GreenGran78 Sun 05-Jul-20 11:25:33

For those of you who haven’t arrived at the menopause yet, not everyone has these awful problems. Apart from a few ‘hot flushes’ I was lucky enough to sail through it without any problems, and without taking any form of medication.

I feel so sorry for you, if you are suffering. My daughter, too, suffered from fits of bad temper. I’m not sure what the doctor prescribed, but it did the trick, and she’s back to her normal self again.

Sarahmob Sun 05-Jul-20 11:33:25

I’m having dreadful symptoms, my worst one is that I can’t stop crying over the silliest of things. My mood is low which makes me really snappy especially with my husband. I really shouted at him in the farm shop the other week ? Not suffering too many hot flushes but having them occasionally. I want to know how long it might go on for - I’m 56.

grandtanteJE65 Sun 05-Jul-20 11:38:17

I think irritation and so-called bad temper have other causes than just the menopause, so perhaps you should try to look calmly at what it actually is that is irritating you just now.

Certainly, the feeling of not being quite in control, being weepy or irritated is part of the menopause, just as it was part of the start of our periods at the menarche and probably if you are like me of every blasted period we ever had.

But sometimes I wonder if we just let off steam at those times, because it was more acceptable to do so than during the rest of the month.

It is all to easy to blame ourselves for being unreasonable at times due to our hormones and not try to work out what else might be causing us to loose our temper.

I'm not explaining this well, so don't jump down my throat, I do know that hormones cause mood swings, but I do feel that other things do so too.

At menopause, we (rightly?) feel an era has come to an end and perhaps we need to work out what we want the rest of our life to look like.

My doctor advised me against HRT as my maternal grandmother and an aunt died of cancer. It isn't always the answer.

albertina Sun 05-Jul-20 11:45:26

I was tested regularly to see if I had started the menopause.My doctor put me on HRT because of our family heart history. My own mother's menopause was dreadful.
This was twenty years ago. I pretty much sailed through and then came off the HRT.
I don't know what the recommendations are now re HRT.
All the very best to you. I hope you will be ok.

Saggi Sun 05-Jul-20 11:47:27

I had no symptoms except night sweats and not sleeping ..... the sweats took ten years to stop.... the sleeping problem never went away and now I’m 70 and IF I get 3 and half hours a night ,it’s a cause for celebration. Strangely though I’m extraordinary energetic and dont nod off during day. No advice I’m afraid ,but wish you well.

PipandFinn Sun 05-Jul-20 11:51:40

I experienced this when I went through the menopause and it was horrendous. I went from being very passive to absolute rage over the smallest incidents. The only advice I can give anyone going through this is to exercise. I now do Pilates 3 days a week (Zoom) which is fantastic for flexibility as we get older but has zero impact on the joints and walk my dog every day with intermittent power walks. Now that I'm through the Menopause I find there's a huge difference in the before and after (me). I'm much more confident and can very easily say the word 'NO' if something doesn't suit me so there is light at the end of the tunnel.. I send my love and blessings to all women who are going through their own battles......

Seefah Sun 05-Jul-20 12:18:02

I depended on something called Menomood from Boots during my long drawn dragged out horrible menopause. My main feeling was dread, fear, with my heart on the floor, unable to enjoy anything or even want to live , but in between if anything went wrong I hit the roof . Menomood just lifted my spirit enough to feel myself . I am not a depressive so I knew it was hormones .

NanaNeets Sun 05-Jul-20 12:20:35

Oh gosh, I too had got angry and was so confrontational during my surgically induced menopause... the poor hubby couldnt breathe without me yelling at him. I decided to go to the GP and chat about hrt... I have an incurable cancer, heart failure etc so was a bit wary of taking anything. Ot got to the point that I would wake up in an absolute rage!! Decided to take the hrt as I couldnt cope with being that angry all the time and felt the benefit for me outweighed the risk.. two years on I am back to me again, good luck with what you decide x

allium Sun 05-Jul-20 12:28:55

Menopause symtoms so awful for me I took HRT for 6 years and never really looked back, I guess it all depends on the individual, weighing up pros and cons, underlying conditions etc, last but not least the quality of life.

Esspee Sun 05-Jul-20 12:39:13

As for putting off the inevitable, the answer to that is not to stop the HRT.
I've been on it for over 30 years and compared to my peers I am healthier, younger looking and still able to work a full day on my feet.
My mother, when in her 70's had crippling osteoporosis, and was frankly an old woman.

paddyanne Sun 05-Jul-20 13:23:12

Get an appoinment at a menopause clinic they might speak to you by phone.I had the menopause form hell I would certainly be dicorced and maybe dead if I hadn't got HRT .The gynaecologist I see yearly has said I can stay on it for life.I'm back to my normal laid back self and I am so pleased about that .I have BP problems and have done since I had pre eclampsia 43 years an s 34 years ago but the risk is very small and well worth taking .Good luck with it .I tried everything known to man and HRT is the only thing that worked

Caro57 Sun 05-Jul-20 13:25:03

For those you can't (and those who can) take HRT there are some dietary suggestions that may help

Flakesdayout Sun 05-Jul-20 17:32:40

I went through my menopause and didnt know it. I was on the Depo contraceptive injection for many years and apparently had my menopause whilst on it. It was the nurse at my then surgery who refused to give me any more injections and was not very helpful as to other forms of contraception apart from the obvious. I was offered HRT but decided not to take it when I read of the side effects. Since then I have had a prolapse and had a hysterectomy and repair. My Consultant gave me hormonal pessaries to strengthen my walls in preparation. Since then I have discovered that I have another prolapse and have been referred back to my Consultant. (Need to get my current condition sorted out first)

In your position I would research what benefits I could get from natural remedies and maybe chat to your GP again. I have a friend who is going through a terrible menopause and cannot get the HRT she needs. This is an affliction that people dont like to talk about and we should all be better informed.

Hetty58 Sun 05-Jul-20 17:45:17

Symptoms lessen and worsten, come and go. You can just wait it out, though, and be kind to yourself.

I tried Evening Primrose, Black Cohosh and Red Clover - but was never convinced that they made any difference.