Jimmy Savile

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I think you're on the wrong site, relichunter.

It is not realy 1 to 1 relichunter it is everyone posting messages all together in a conversation. I think if you want 1 to 1 you need a different site.

relichunter, just find something that interests you in the topics and click on that thread. If you want say something, click on 'comment', post your remarks , then click 'Post message' at the bottom. If you want to speak to somebody one to one, you can find a post from them and click on 'private message' to the right of the bar with their name on it. You will soon get used to it. You could start by introducing yourself, and making a Profile.

Hi relichunter. How did you come across Gransnet? Are you a grandparent, too? Join in or just lurk and see how the conversations develop

Think relichunter has popped in Lil's bar for a drink!!

merlotgran Strictly speaking there is no need to strip JS of his knighthood as it died with him. That's slightly different from Lester Piggot.

I was shocked yesterday evening when having an end-of-day drink with Mr absent to overhear a conversation between two men, one somewhere in his seventies and the other about thirty/forty something. Both felt that the allegations about Jimmy Saville couldn't possibly be true because of his charity work and both felt that if the women concerned didn't say something at the time, they have no right to say anything now that the man is dead and thus blight his reputation. Exactly the reasons why he got away with it for so long.

I AGREE absent

Sorry before you all read this but BLOODY typical of men!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got the impression from Chris Patten's interview on TV news last night that he was struggling with this too. His words were PC, but the tone he used and his facial expression contradicted them.

Oh absent - how on earth did you control yourself when you heard that?

Oh Marelli I didn't.

absent ????

Nanadog They left the pub (I assume they left, I went home first) chastened and wiser than when they went in.

Respect absent

I bet they were shivering in their shoes when you walked away....! And it's all I would expect from any of us!

The historian, Macauley, famously said "We know no spectacle so ridiculous, as the British public in one of its periodical fits of morality."

I worry that 'ridiculous' no longer fits the bill, that it can be replaced by 'feral' -- Sa-vile he may be, but the enjoyment of the folks using him as a chew-toy is not attractive... A more solemn approach to this tragedy might be more appealing in the long run, and we'd all feel better after it has run its course!

As for Freddie - I know nothing of his relationships - I just know that he was, when I knew him, like a loaded gun - at his home you never got between him and the pool, or you would find yourself in it, fully dressed.

'We'd all feel better after its run its course'? Not sure what you mean by that feetle do you perhaps mean feel 'more comfortable'?. I got the impression that was Chris Patten's attitude too.

However I do agree that the way certain papers have seized on the story is not attractive. But then you could say that about the populist press and they way they treat news stories.

You knew Freddy Starr then?

PS Did you mean Macaulay?

feetlebaum Apart from the rather sick-making nature of the image of JS as a chewy toy, I don't really understand what you are saying. Who is enjoying this chewy toy thing? What is tragic? Why should solemn be so much more appropriate than angry?

How can ridiculous be replaced by feral in the quotation? I assume you mean in the sense of resembling a wild animal, but wild animals don't have public fits of morality so the quotation becomes completely meaningless.

Yes - dammit - I did mean Macaulay! What a bloody fool, wasn't he, boys and girls?

(Me - not Macaulay...)

Sweet feetle you may still be a boy at heart but I am a woman, not a girl. You're only digging the hole deeper!!!!!

merlotgran who said Prince Phillip asked Saville to help Charles and Diana ? - I would be astounded if that was true! Unless I hear from the Prince himself I think it was a publicity item on Saville's part. The Royals aren't stupid, Prince Phillip was in the Navy and probably was aware that Saville was weird even if he didn't know the exact details. Someone on this thread said we shouldn't pursue this because Saville is dead. The women concerned are still having to live with this trauma and need to be heard and believed. I found Freddie Starr's interview this week decidly suspect and creepy. He was whining about being innocent about abusing young women with his chavvy 34 year old pregnant girl friend standing behind him, he is 69 years old - nuff said!!

I'd forgotten how JS used the phrase 'boys and girls' so much.

I think I understand what Feetle is saying about feral morality. It can be seen in the baying crowds surrounding police vans taking people accused of awful crimes to court. Spitting, screaming and you just know if they could get hold of the accused he would be torn to bits.

All in the name of moral outrage and not a pretty sight.