Women Bishops - synod rejects again

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According to her argument then you would have to get a unanimous agreement for any change!
Ludicrous too that this institution gets all those seats in the House of Lords - representing the ENGLISH Anglicans only.

Her argument isn't even the same as that given by the new and outgoing Archbishops of Canterbury, who are frustrated that insufficient members of the laity voted in favour. They only needed another 6 votes to have a majority in favour of women.

It's women like Anne Atkins who prove that feminism still has some way to go. I wonder if she disapproves of the Queen being head of the church?

Why on earth do believers stand for this (perhaps they don't. Are they doing something about it?) I don't get it

The Queen isn't head of the church; she is the Governor of the Church of England.

absentgrana .....er.... what's the difference? If she's Governor of the Church of England then doesn't that mean she's head of the church? And if she isn't, who is?

The Sovereign holds the title 'Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England'.

So the Queen's head of the Church? Or not?

Wikipedia says: "The Supreme Governor of the Church of England is a title held by the British monarch that signifies titular leadership over the Church of England"

Sounds pretty important to me and she wears a crown.

Titular.

She's the titular head of the Church of England.

Mixed feelings from this atheist : while not giving a toss about the CofE and its, to me pointless, carryings-on, I am very much in favour of equality of opportunity for women, and angered by the Synod's vote!

Ditto.

Jesus

Can someone out there give a valid reason 'why' women can't become Bishops?

There is no valid reason. The arguments put forward by the ConEvos are the same ones that were put forward in the past to justify women not having the vote or being judges or doctors and so on.

Titular means in name only. Title, but no power. Says it all really. Ordinary women too in the church, even if ordained priests, have a title but no power. The Reverend Jo Bloggs but never Bishop Jo.

When, this is a problem for the C of E, FIEC and R.C. churches. I meet with other believers once a week. (Sometimes atheists/agnostics/people of other faiths join us.) We don't have a hierarchical leadership and the women play an equal part with the men. I have many friends who attend church in the traditional way and I admire them, but I gave up trying to effect change from within some years ago and revel in the freedom I now have to work out my faith in the company of like-minded people. We argue things out, sometimes hold (agreeably) differences of opinion, share our doubts and difficulties - but the bottom line is a recognition that Jesus had/has no favourites.

I meant Jesus is the head of the Church of England; the Queen is the Supreme Governor and the Archbishops of Canterbury and York are primates.

absentgrana admirably put. How are you placed to come and preach in Leicester one Sunday evening

That term - primates - has always amused me. In Scotland the head episcopal bishop is called the primus and I remember once when I happened to be at a meeting with the then primus, asking him whether he preferred being a stove to a monkey. (Luckily he was a guy with a good sense of humour, so he just laughed).

Much respect ga

I'm not a church-goer, but the wrangles in the Church of England don't strike me as much different from those conducted in men's private clubs, golf clubs, and the Freemasons over the past few decades. At least the dissenters are being open about their reservations, and not cooking up deals behind closed doors!

You think, *when?

Ok, maybe not.........

isthis I should be honoured.

So things haven't moved on much since Antony Trollope wrote about the intrigues and back-stabbing!

If the Archbishop is the (male) head of the C/E and is to be revered as the father figure who has the last word....didn't he say women bishops were a sensible progression for C/E? Why did the lay women ignore his advice???
(sorry if someone said this already..been off line and not had time to read all posts)