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Poor old Ed Miliband

(96 Posts)
j08 Tue 01-Oct-13 22:12:27

The Daily Mail going on about his dad like that. sad

I really hate the Daily Mail. The country would be so much better off without it.

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-13 13:05:53

I understand your views riverwalk , but if one thinks a party should veer to the right but the other to the left then both should stand and allow members to decide and this is what happened.

standing back - as Brown did- caused many problems for the party , and I was miffed I didn't get a vote, still am

Iam64 Wed 02-Oct-13 14:49:27

Well - it's good to see so many people accepting that Ed had equal rights to David to stand for the leadership. I am relieved David didn't get it, he was too contaminated with the Blair/Brown/Iraq war issues for me. He also supported military action in Syria recently, so he doesn't seem to have learned anything from recent disasters. Being siblings, or partners/husbands and wives, doesn't mean you see everything in exactly the same way.

Eloethan Wed 02-Oct-13 15:22:35

I don't think Ed Miliband stabbed his brother in the back. They had different views about the direction the Labour Party should take and they each had the opportunity to present their views.

I'm glad that Ed Miliband has defended his dad against the disgusting comments made by the Mail. There are many people - myself included - who dislike the personal and political privileges entrenched in such British institutions as the royal family and the church. Is it for the Daily Mail to decide what "British values" are or should be?

LizG Wed 02-Oct-13 15:24:38

I think bluebell may have touched on this but it is interesting that the DM's report and Ed Milliband's response almost wiped the Conservative Party Conference off the headlines. Interesting! hmm

annodomini Wed 02-Oct-13 15:29:51

Unintended consequences?

whenim64 Wed 02-Oct-13 15:42:37

........da da dahhhhhhh.....OR.........intended, Anno (twirls moustache and looks dodgy!) grin

Penstemmon Wed 02-Oct-13 16:36:12

Eloethan I thought the DM did enshrine all that is wonderful about British values: Fair minded, family oriented, caring, polite, reasonable, calm, extending a friendy welcome to the weak and suffering etc etc. hmm

Mamie Thu 03-Oct-13 12:05:48

Now Ed Miliband has written to Lord Rothermere complaining that a journalist from the Mail on Sunday gatecrashed a private memorial service for his uncle, a distinguished doctor. The journalist was trying to get a reaction to the Ralph Miliband story, from the family. The letter is in the online Guardian.
You couldn't make it up.

Iam64 Thu 03-Oct-13 12:12:10

Goodness mamie - makes you think about the levenson enquiry doesn't it, and press regulation!

Mamie Thu 03-Oct-13 13:17:21

I think a lot of this is about Leveson. I never quite understood all the stuff about protecting the freedom of the press at all costs; is this the sort of thing people had in mind?
It feels more as if sections of the press feel that they have rights without responsibilities.

Mamie Thu 03-Oct-13 13:25:22

I see the MoS has now apologised. This bit of the Guardian report of what happened was particularly shocking, I thought.
"The reporter at one point held the hand of one of the grieving relatives and then twice asked her to comment on Ralph Miliband, the source said. She refused to do so."

JessM Thu 03-Oct-13 13:45:10

Clegg made an excellent point today i.e. it is a bit rich accusing RM of being anti-Britain when the DM is a daily avalanche of criticism of ... the UK. hmm

Jendurham Thu 03-Oct-13 14:08:13

2 MoS reporters have been suspended.
Harry Keen, Ed's uncle, set up the NHS Support Federation.
www.nhscampaign.org.uk
He also did lots of research into diabetes and diet.
No wonder the MoS thinks its reporters were beyond the pale.

annodomini Thu 03-Oct-13 14:11:30

I was pleased to hear Clegg saying something I could agree with for once.

Mamie Thu 03-Oct-13 14:11:33

Well we don't know that the MoS thinks they were beyond the pale. Just that the public were so obviously going to think they were beyond the pale that an apology might seem like a good idea.

lizgg Thu 03-Oct-13 14:20:05

The Daily Mail's political extremism, masquerading as news, shames all fair-minded journalists and adds weight to the politicians' attempts to regulate the Press.
The only way to alter the DM's vicious and unwarrented personal attacks is to do what the people of Liverpool did to The Sun (after Hillsborough) and boycott it - in print and online (which is a shame, as I like their Sudoku: perhaps Gransnet can start online puzzles?)

Jendurham Thu 03-Oct-13 14:34:34

In his statement, Greig promised a full investigation, saying it had been a "terrible lapse of judgment" and two journalists on the paper had been suspended.

Quote from the Guardian, Mamie. I think that means beyond the pale.
I'll look it up in my dictionary if you want, but a terrible lapse of judgment means beyond the pale to me.

Mamie Thu 03-Oct-13 14:38:17

I was distinguishing between what the MoS said and what they might have actually thought Jendurham. Dreadfully cynical of me, I know.

Jendurham Thu 03-Oct-13 14:53:41

www.change.org/en-GB/users/64538975

Alistair Campbell wants Dacre to debate with him.
A petition to sign.

whenim64 Thu 03-Oct-13 15:28:37

Signed. I would pay to watch that!!!

Jendurham Thu 03-Oct-13 19:11:07

They might have to have them do it by video, or tie Campbell to his chair.
Anyone else signed apart from When? I have, obviously.

Over 14500 signatures in 10 hours!

Greatnan Thu 03-Oct-13 19:20:34

Signed.

whitewave Thu 03-Oct-13 19:22:13

Just wait as we get nearer to the election the DM will slaughter Ed Miliband. Just hope that the voting public have long memories, and realize the DM for what it is.

Jendurham Thu 03-Oct-13 19:36:09

20000 signatures now.
Whitewave, I hope there will not be a Daily Mail by the next election. It should go the way of the News of the World.
Does Rothermere have any other papers apart from the Mail and MoS?

Jendurham Thu 03-Oct-13 19:42:34

hackinginquiry.org/write-to-your-mp/

Another petition to write to your MP about the Leveson enquiry.
It goes to parliament on 9th October.