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Jeremy Clarkson

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merlotgran Wed 11-Mar-15 13:35:59

Quite rightly he's being suspended but should the BBC be cancelling episodes of Top Gear?

If a man working in a factory punches a colleague he would probably be sacked but I doubt they'd remove the product he was making from the shelves.

gillybob Fri 13-Mar-15 19:09:45

Agree with Mishap hardly a lynch mob. Just a reasonable discussion. confused

thatbags Fri 13-Mar-15 19:10:00

I think that any fast driving filmed for Top Gear is done with proper safeguards and controls. BBC would never get away with anything else.

Ceesnan Fri 13-Mar-15 19:20:39

The majority of fast car testing on Top Gear is done on an airfield. When the filming is done on a road in most cases the road is closed to other traffic if they are using excessive speed.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 13-Mar-15 19:48:21

Hate bloody Formula 1!!!! hmm

Deedaa Fri 13-Mar-15 21:18:02

First race on Sunday grin grin grin

gillybob Sat 14-Mar-15 00:04:13

Come on now jings how can you say you hate F1. Fast cars, fast men, exotic locations.....what's not to like?

I can't wait. grin

grumppa Sat 14-Mar-15 00:10:19

Formula 1 is boring.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 14-Mar-15 12:59:13

Yeeowmmm! Yeeowmmmm! Brrrmmmm Brummmm

Great. hmm

merlotgran Sat 14-Mar-15 13:25:34

Yep. Its boring.....until somebody crashes!!

Awful thing to say but it's just a fast moving procession now.

Loads of my family love it. I just go with the flow hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 14-Mar-15 13:40:24

We will go to the garden centre while it's on and eat more cake

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 14-Mar-15 13:40:56

If I can drag the nine year old away from it. hmm

AlieOxon Sat 14-Mar-15 15:38:36

I dunno what's interesting about watching cars.

Mishap Sat 14-Mar-15 17:11:30

Me neither!

KatyK Sat 14-Mar-15 17:56:33

Nor me

granjura Sat 14-Mar-15 18:22:32

Moi non plus !

loopylou Sat 14-Mar-15 19:26:36

Definitely not interested!

NotTooOld Sat 14-Mar-15 20:13:19

I don't like JC either but I only saw TG once and that was while I was on a ferry. I remember thinking he actually did a very good job as a presenter, very professional. He must have a lot of fans. When my DD told DGS, aged 5, that JC had 'been shown the red card' and would no longer be on TV he was very upset!

GrannyTwice Sat 14-Mar-15 20:51:30

Well perhaps your dd could explain why he'd been shown the red card. There's a lesson in that isn't there about bullying, entitlement, foul language which is a bit more serious than a 'red card'

Ana Sat 14-Mar-15 23:06:42

Just had a look at tomorrow's newspapers' front pages, one of which is claiming that the producer involved in the 'fracas' has received hate mail and death threats and fears his career is over.

I wonder whether JC's at all concerned about the unforeseen consequences of his hissy-fit on other people?

GrannyTwice Sat 14-Mar-15 23:37:28

Well Ana we all know the answer to that don't we? I'm still amazed it's taking so long to investigate - I mean how hard is it? The time gap is just allowing more and more speculation and that doesn't help anyone. The hatred being vented at the producer is truly amazing

Nelliemoser Sun 15-Mar-15 00:39:50

Now I can't say I am surprised at all that some supporters of JC appear to be the sort of people who send hate mail to the person who was allegedly assaulted by him.

Eloethan Sun 15-Mar-15 01:21:00

It has been pointed out that the producer involved in this incident had not made a complaint either to the BBC or to the police. An article in The I yesterday written by a female TV producer, gave some insight into the world of broadcasting and perhaps threw some light on why a producer might be reluctant to initiate a complaint:

"We all talk about the abuse, we hand each other tissues, threaten to quit - and then worry about paying our bills. You see, we are nearly all freelance. As a series producer, I'm lucky. I'm paid well and my contracts are generally long. But the average contracts for assistant producers are about 12 weeks."

It seems therefore that many producers are part of the ever-growing band of workers whose employment status is precarious and who might be committing "career suicide" by pursuing a complaint against people in powerful positions.

I wonder if those that have signed a petition in support of JC would find it acceptable if they were being verbally and/or physically abused by their own managers.

It was heartening to read that whilst there are reportedly several presenters who are self-centred bullies, the article's writer named two presenters who behave properly towards their production colleagues and go out of their way to offer assistance - Ben Fogle and Davina McCall.

Jane10 Sun 15-Mar-15 06:35:02

Am not surprised to hear about Davina and Ben. However, producers must know how precarious a job it is. If they can't stand the heat etc.....
Actually I bet Jeremy Clarkson is pretty appalled at what has happened. There's more to him than the cartoonish presentation on Top Gear.

JessM Sun 15-Mar-15 07:56:16

Yes Eloethan there are a lot of people "working" in all kinds of settings who do not have a secure contract of employment. Many of the new jobs that have been created in recent years are like this. I am not just talking about a checkout assistant on a zero hours contract. In some careers, particular arts- or media-related people spend years on internships (often completely unpaid), self-employed contracts, part time roles and working for agencies. Oh an running around doing voluntary stuff to beef up your CV. There are just too many people chasing these jobs and employers take advantage. They are very vulnerable.
I have a young relative who has a degree and a master's in curating - it has taken her 3 years to get a full time job in the museums sector and there is an awful lot of "admin" in the job description.
As to the length of time it is taking to investigate, this is nothing. Take a look at the length of time a hospital consultant can be suspended on full pay before a disciplinary issue is resolved. Can run into years.

NotTooOld Sun 15-Mar-15 09:29:01

GrannyTwice - good idea. I'm sure DD WOULD have explained DGS why JC was shown the red card - DGS would certainly have asked. It is clearly a good opportunity to teach children how to behave towards other people and why they should do so. What happens, though, when the Beeb decides to forgive and forget and JC appears on our screens again (if we don't use the remote quickly enough)? I suppose DD could then explain that JC had spent enough time on the naughty step and was now forgiven.