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jo1book Fri 01-May-15 13:03:59

I was watching The news to-day, featuring a boxer who had had a sex change. People deciding they were in the wrong body is fine by me but I find myself not knowing how to react when talking to one or two I actually know. Which means I talk differently to men than I do to women! This has really surprised me. The Male to female is easier because you can talk clothes, which thy really like to do. My hairdresser has gone from female to male and likes dirty jokes. What a complicated world.

Iam64 Sat 02-May-15 09:05:46

Your uncle's experiences are interesting and heart rending jo1book. It can only be a positive thing that there is less prejudice around about sexuality generally. One of my close pals said he knew he was gay from age 7 - 8, this at a time when homosexuality activity was illegal. He is now 73 but remembers being taken at age 18 for a drink by a slightly older man in the northern, former cotton town where we live. He said the excitement of realising "I'm not the only one, there are 8 of us in this town" was wonderful for the shy young man he was then.
My children's generation have never been anything other than at ease with gay/lesbian friends or relations. Our youngest daughter enjoyed the Imitation Game, but was horrified at the way in which gay men were criminalised. She hadn't realised how relatively recent the changes in the law were.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 02-May-15 09:54:42

jo1book That is horrific (the funeral thing). Man's inhumanity to man. sad

jo1book Sat 02-May-15 10:35:50

My Nan said his worst crime was going on tv and bringing attention to himself. Remember, he had two children who had to go to school the next day, in the early seventies when attitudes were a lot different. I used to feel indignant that the midwife asked Nan, just after labour, "what would you like". She was 18 with a husband in the trenches she wanted to please. "My husband would like a boy". So that was it. The midwife felt a choice had to be made. It was unthinkable then, and probably still is to-day, that you announce to the world that you had given birth to a baby of unknown sex.

NanKate Sat 02-May-15 11:06:28

Pompa I too was biased and did not understand all the upset and pain Transgender people can feel.

Earlier this year my male cousin contacted me who I have not seen since he was about 8 and now 57. He had a sex change 25 years ago.

Since then we have been in regular contact female to female and I have heard about the awful life she has led in order to become the woman that she always felt she was.

She is now ignored by all her family including children (other than myself and my sister) and is so sad and rejected, but she has made a reasonable life for herself.

She has become a Quaker - who accept gay/lesbian/transgender people.

I was very sad when she said 'I am waiting to meet my parents in the next life and hope they will take my hand and accept and love me'. sad

rubylady Sat 02-May-15 21:28:07

My sister is gay and thanks to her it has opened me up over the years to the LGBT world and to accept them for who they are. I met a guy in a gay club where my sister worked who was then in his 50's who had been married and had children and was still going to clubs in secret because he knew his family would not accept him. It was awful.

Thank goodness for the differences of us all. smile

Galen Sat 02-May-15 22:11:36

My niece is gay and my son is becoming another daughter.
I'm supporting her, but I find it difficult

Deedaa Sat 02-May-15 23:41:11

Some years ago I saw a chat show about the problems of transgender people. One person there had been born with no sex organs at all and therefore no sex defining hormones. He/she was the most fascinating person I've ever seen, one moment you thought you were looking at a girl then with a slight change of expression it was a young man. He/she dressed in either male or female clothes or a mixture of both depending on his/her mood. I've never seen anyone who seemed so happy in their own skin, the lack of sexual interest in anyone else seemed to have removed so many of the emotional problems most of us have and left an air of serenity. He/she didn't seem to feel that they were missing anything because there was no concept of what it would be like to be different.

kittylester Sun 03-May-15 08:29:29

Galen, I'm sure it is really difficult for you having had a son for so long who now is becoming a woman! You know we are always here for you! flowers

A friend's ex-husband has become a woman which appears to have had a huge effect on the mental health of his two daughters, one of whom has attempted suicide on numerous occasions! sad

Mishap Sun 03-May-15 09:37:49

Galen - I have a friend in exactly the same position re her son - now daughter. I think the hardest thing is to know that your child has been unhappy in their skin for such a long time and you may not have been aware of it. I hope that the transition is smooth.

The most difficult thing seems to have been to decide at what point you refer to him as her. And explaining to friends and family.

Good luck to all of you with this.

whenim64 Sun 03-May-15 10:34:51

A tough time for your whole family, Galen and hopefully your acceptance with ease the strain of what your 'new' daughter is going through. I know it's been awful for you, worrying about her wellbeing. I've met and known quite a few people who have transitioned - some decided not to have the final surgery, some had regrets and wondered if they had done the right thing, but most felt complete relief to find themselves in the body they had felt was right for them at last. The ones who remained near to supportive families fared well. I had one colleague who liked to amuse her neighbours by dashing up ladders to fix her roof, wearing her female clothes. She said one of the perks of being transgender was seeing the penny drop on other people's faces and being able to tell them how great her life is nowadays.

Terribull thanks for the recommendation - I have just ordered 'Middlesex' and looking forward to reading it.

NanKate Mon 04-May-15 07:22:54

My once male cousin told me that she knew she was in the wrong body from about the age of 4. Her parents told her all would be well once she was married. How wrong could they have been.

Admittedly this all happened many years ago when gay/lesbian/transgender folk were frowned upon.

My cousin has craved acceptance and love from her family and has not received it.

Well done to you Galen for supporting your new daughter. It must be hard but you will both benefit in the end.

whenim64 Sat 09-May-15 14:41:05

I'm now halfway through 'Middlesex' and finding it great reading. Such a riveting story and most enlightening about a condition that so many people have exoerienced, but little is known about their lives.