I might vote Tory but that doesn't make me a bad person

Well I'm quite happy to say I voted for the conservatives as I have done all my life. I do not earn masses of money but I have enough for my needs. We were poor when I was a child and my father worked really hard but never earned huge amounts of money. I have got what I have by saving and working hard myself. I think the benefit system should be used for the people who really need it, the disabled and the chronically ill who really need help and deserve it not those who have never worked in their lives and are too idle to do so and feel that ordinary hard working people should keep them, the sense of entitlement of the idle is astounding. Margaret Thatcher did a lot for this country and broke the stranglehold of the unions who were happy to get money for themselves whilst their members suffered. Ed Milliband is a joke and deserved to lose.

I'll sit back now and wait to be shot down in flames!

It has been pointed out endlessly that any member is entitled to post her/his opinion on any topic under discussion. Any other member is also entitled to disagree with that opinion. If someone choses to post a vitriolic comment about David Cameron, HM the Queen or Lassie the Wonder Dog, it is not a personal attack on the original poster. (BTW I'd quite like to see accusations of vitriol confined to genuinely corrosive remarks for a little while at least.)

Hear! Hear!
Well said Twice
A lot of very red-tinted glasses on here

Funny how graciously (and quickly) their leader bowed out, wasn't going stand up and fight his corner was he?

I have an idea. Not sure if it is a good one or not.
What would happen if political stuff on the political thread was allowed to stand, even if it is incorrect in someone's opinion.
What would happen if everything was left as it stood for say 1 year.
Would anything happen?
Would it make any difference to anything?

soontobe It is.

Thanks very much loopylou just had to get that off my chest

That's a great idea, soon.
Some people seem a bit confused about what is vitriol and what is only Irn-Bru. It makes me wonder if some of them should even be allowed to vote at all.

I think we all know what vitriol is.

I think we all know what class warfare is.

And I think we all know that Irn Bru is bad for your teeth!

On a lighter note, do you suppose there's such a thing as The Russell Brand Effect? Only, his endorsement, or whatever it was, of Labour does seem to have been a disaster

The thought of being 'endorsed' or approved by him makes me shudder.

Isn't there a sugar free version, ana?

Mind you, that probably rots your brain... <ducks>

absent l

Sugar free versions often leave a nasty aftertaste.

Yes, that's you told, bags!

Did Brand vote in the end do we know?

First it was don't vote, then don't register to vote, then vote Green, then vote Labour , he did more U Turns than the government and look how they were taken the piddle out of.

I think a lot of those who were happy to follow his 'thoughts' were probably very confused by the end of it all. How could they vote Labour if they had not registered to vote. . At least it might have taught them not to follow the crowd in future.

Doesn't look like it!

No; it was an observation about people in general GrannyTwice. Strange thing is that people get so upset and angry about politics and yet, from what I've been told, politicians actually get on really well with each other when they're not debating things in public. No one is bad if they vote for a particular party as long as they genuinely believe that they're doing so for the right reasons; it's just so difficult to get those reasons across on forums such as this.

He's such a child. (Russell Brandt)

No 't'. Soz.

Russell Brand - "You can't change the outcome of an election." Didn't the votes of millions of people change the result from what it might have been otherwise?
Let's hope anyone who was looking to him for advice has now seen the light.

I think it was my response to your post that GT was so incredulous about, Tegan

Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes
.....this is from another forum..probably doesn't apply to any of this but it always makes me chuckle when I read it. vive la difference, it's been a long, emotional day and I'm off to bed....

Tegan -^^ what Ana said

Although you haven't answered my post of 21.17 GTwice.