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Out of the EU? (just for fun)

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trisher Sun 10-May-15 21:48:24

If we pull out of Europe after the referendum what will bother you most?
I don't understand all the regulations and rules, but I think it is fun to speculate on what you will miss the most, or what worries you most. I have 3. In no particular order;
Will my local Italian deli close because the owner has to leave?
How much booze will I be able to bring home when I go on holiday?
Will my DSs Polish girlfriend be sent home?

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 18:24:50

roastchicken

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 18:28:37

Getting married will not change the fact that she is an immigrant, jingl, and talked about as if she is not wanted here.
Getting married will not change her son's status, either. He's always been quite pleased at being a Viking. In primary school, it was a good talking point, and learning experience for other kids. It's only when he reaches 18 that he might have to choose.

Ana Mon 11-May-15 18:33:39

But it would solve the practical problems, wouldn't it? And stop your grandson from being worried about his mum being deported.

rosequartz Mon 11-May-15 18:37:40

They will probably be treated the same as Commonwealth citizens are treated now, since we abandoned them in favour of the EU.

Does Natalie Bennett have dual nationality?

Right to a family life? What's that, GrannyTwice?
No, it applies criminals with a cat!
But decent, hardworking people such as djen is talking about may have more difficulty.
Why would anyone be nasty to a Danish man working in the UK? No-one I know.
I think that, even if were against my principles and better instincts, if my child was caught in a situation like that, I would marry the child's father so that the child could get nationality. I would put my child before me and my principles every time. But I cannot speak for what other people would do.
(If that is the reason the child cannot get a British passport. Apologies if I misunderstood, and yes, I think you explained it before djen but my memory is not what it was, blame overload.)

It's not going to happen, folks!

Ana Mon 11-May-15 18:38:21

But I expect you'll say 'why should they be forced to get married against their will just because This Government has the temerity to want to renegotiate terms with the EU?'

Ana Mon 11-May-15 18:40:22

x posts rose, but the sentiment is the same.

rosequartz Mon 11-May-15 18:41:11

I still don't understand why anyone would be horrid to her and her brother if he came. I worked with a Danish lady, she came over here many many years ago.
Perhaps I just know very nice people.

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 19:02:06

I did not say they were horrid to her. What I said is that they talk about immigrants in front of her without realising she is one.
Would you like it if people talked about not wanting people like you here?
It's nothing to do with how nice the people are that you know. It's to do with the general perception of those who have been taken in by right wing propaganda about immigration. Too many of them here; we don't want immigrants here taking all our jobs.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:08:19

shock

Another two years of this!!! Howllll!!!!

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 19:14:10

What did you think exit from the EU would be about, jingl? It's about people who live here being made to feel uncomfortable, not wanted, etc., not just about EU laws and jobs.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:15:37

It's about the country's economics as much as anything.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:16:21

And I don't want us to exit the EU so what are you going on about? hmm

Ana Mon 11-May-15 19:20:58

Right-wing propaganda about immigrants! What rubbish.

You still haven't said what's wrong with them getting married, and putting your grandson's mind at rest, durhamjen.

rosequartz Mon 11-May-15 19:25:03

Well, my DM used to say 'Don't meet trouble half-way, perhaps it will never happen'.
I would not want my DGS to get so anxious about his DM and think that kids have enough burdens to carry soon enough without grownups burdening them with theirs.
If the worst happens, I would want to put a positive spin on it for my DGS's sake.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:25:13

I think the plan is to reduce the number of immigrants coming in in the future, in light of the expansion of the EU. I really don't think it's about sending the likes of your grandson's mum back to ytheir previous countries.

rosequartz Mon 11-May-15 19:25:40

sorry, 'children', I know some people hate the word 'kids' and I am not keen myself!

Ana Mon 11-May-15 19:30:45

But don't let facts get in the way of a good scaremongering story...

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 19:30:48

I have, Ana. It's just that you did not understand.
His mother will still be Danish. Whether his parents are married or not married does not matter to him. She was born in Denmark and will always be Danish. Do you expect her to denounce her place of birth? Would you? When she moved here twenty+ years ago, it did not matter. It does now, because of the uncertainty of whether we stay in the EU or not.
If his parents get married, it will not make any difference to his status, unless the law has changed lately.
My other son's wife is Spanish. Being married does not make her less Spanish.

Ana Mon 11-May-15 19:34:58

You originally said your grandson was worried that his mum might be sent back to Denmark. Rosequartz and I were suggesting that if his parents got married that would not happen (not that it would anyway!).

That was the problem we thought you and your grandson were concerned about. I don't understand all that about nationality - of course your DILs would still be Danish and Spanish...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:35:06

I really thought if you weere married to a British person, you could stay in this country. confused Couldn't she have dual nationality? (I don't know much about this tbh. (I still think getting hitched is the best idea))

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:36:29

He could still be a Viking. Bless him! smile

GrannyTwice Mon 11-May-15 19:38:39

NB is a British citizen

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:40:40

Who is? confused

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-May-15 19:41:19

If his dad's name on his birth certificate, are you sure he can't have British nationality? Why does he have to have only his mum's?

loopylou Mon 11-May-15 19:48:49

For heavens sake!
Talk about stirring things up. None of us know what the impact of the Referendum might be and until any of us know a lot more about options etc the gloom and doom on this thread is, IMO, pure speculation.

How on earth did the young lad get to hear about this? From adults who should have known better than to plant the idea of him being separated from his mother in his brain.

Since when did anyone say it would mean expelling everyone not born in GB from the country? That's blatant scaremongering by certain anti-Conservative posters, no where can I find anything whatsoever about this on the Internet or it even being a vague possibility.