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TerriBull Sat 29-Aug-15 09:18:16

I have just read an appalling piece of news on line that several newspapers are carrying. A brother of two young sisters in India has run off with a married woman from a higher caste. I gather where they live is a rural part of India that is presided over by tribal elders. It seems that these elderly males have deemed that a quid pro quo punishment for this so called transgression on the part of the young man and they have deemed that his two young sisters should be gang raped and then paraded naked through their village. Surely the Indian government could step in and stop such a vile atrocity happening? I realise that India is a vast country that has an enormous disparity between the role it plays, as one of the most important economic players on the world stage, and the small parochial communities that live their lives in a bygone era. This deep rooted misogyny is very disturbing. Is there a petition that could be presented to the Indian Government to stop this sort of thing happening?


TerriBull Sat 29-Aug-15 09:21:14

I think Amnesty International have a petition so I will look for that.

Alea Sat 29-Aug-15 09:21:25

There is something on Facebook, or you could Google Amnesty International, they are organising a petition.

Truly sickening, is there no rule of law in these remote areas? In many other respects India is a vibrant 21st Century country, and then this happens sad

Alea Sat 29-Aug-15 09:21:50

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thatbags Sat 29-Aug-15 09:30:35


Luckygirl Sat 29-Aug-15 09:52:52

Sigh. I will look for the petition.

whitewave Sat 29-Aug-15 09:54:54

So will those responsible be arrested for GBH or if the worse happens murder? If not why not?

petra Sat 29-Aug-15 10:02:31

And meanwhile we are still giving India foreign aid.

Luckygirl Sat 29-Aug-15 10:25:49

For some reason my computer will not connect to the petition page of AI - could someone please post it as a link? I will see if that will work. Thanks.

dustyangel Sat 29-Aug-15 10:35:32

DH showed me this yesterday. Incredible. sad

Indinana Sat 29-Aug-15 10:41:56

Sickening. I'm completely lost for words sad

Indinana Sat 29-Aug-15 10:44:42

Here's the Amnesty International petition.

TerriBull Sat 29-Aug-15 10:50:52

It's depressing enough to read about all the horrible things that happen in war zones, particularly the treatment dished out by ISIS to women and girls. I'm absolutely gobsmacked that India, a democracy, can allow these rural kangaroo courts to exist.

Luckgirl, I too am having problems connecting to the petition page.

TerriBull Sat 29-Aug-15 10:53:00

Thank you Indinana, I have now signed it.

annsixty Sat 29-Aug-15 11:18:25

I am truly horrified and have signed.

Eloethan Sat 29-Aug-15 11:21:05

Absolutely appalling. What is the government doing about these disgusting laws and practices. Is there a massive outcry from the educated Indian people? If not, there education counts for nothing.

Rape is surely illegal even if a so-called "village council" has made this judgment? There appear to be dozens of cases like this - India really needs to get into the 21st century or, despite being part of the "space race", it will, in my opinion rightly, be viewed as a savage and backward country.

petra The UK is, from this year, no longer giving Aid to India.

TerriBull Sat 29-Aug-15 11:47:57

When I first read the article in the Independent, I had to read it again, I just found it unbelievable. Hideous!

Of course the whole caste system, whilst cultural, is pretty incongruous in a modern society, no doubt some would argue other countries have class systems, which is true to an extent, but that's another argument.

I do hope other countries, including our own, will bring pressure to bear and this dreadful assault will not be carried out.

I think Indian women are beginning to rise up and protest about this sort of thing anyway.

Jane10 Sat 29-Aug-15 11:54:37

OMG those poor girls. Unfortunately I suspect that this must be a tip of the iceberg situation: this sort of thing must be quietly going on without it coming to the attention of the media. I will sign the petition immediately. I had thought that after the uproar about that poor girl on the bus that there would be a massive governmental push to stop that sort of thing. Men's natures are so repellent when they have the opportunity to take advantage of this sort of atrocious bullying of the vulnerable.

ffinnochio Sat 29-Aug-15 11:59:31

This made me weep with despair when I first heard of it. The response to the brother's crime is deeply unconscionable and saddening. sad

whenim64 Sat 29-Aug-15 12:19:52

Petition signed. Cold-blooded planning is sickening when carried out by individuals but to have it ordered by tribal elders is atrocious, inhumane. They should be arrested and brought to justice.

whenim64 Sat 29-Aug-15 12:27:15

Similar vigilante behaviour by tribal elders last year in Bengal. They and the perpetrators of the rapes were arrested and dealt with by the law. Presumably, the same will happen here before they carry out this threat.

thatbags Sat 29-Aug-15 12:33:06

I damn well hope so, when, about the before bit.

whenim64 Sat 29-Aug-15 12:44:05

According to this news from Australia, the girls are safe in Delhi and requesting protection so they can return to their village. These 'kangaroo courts' were made illegal in 2011.

whenim64 Sat 29-Aug-15 12:57:44

From Amnesty's website:


By Amnesty International ,23 August 2015, Index Number: ASA 20/2316/2015

On July 30, in Baghpat, Uttar Pradesh, in northern India, a non-elected municipal council and composed solely of men ordered a dalit woman and her teenage sister was violated, and that would make them parade naked. The sisters and their families have fled the town and are currently in Delhi.

Jane10 Sat 29-Aug-15 13:12:05

Thank God they are safe. Not sure that they would want to return to a village where there are people who even think like these 'elders'. Hard for them to have turned their lives upside-down as it is.