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Devorgilla Wed 16-Sept-15 13:02:18

Well, I have to say that I was impressed. JC managed the whole affair quite well and it was a refreshing approach. It will be interesting to see if this style can be maintained. One tweet on it stated that it was quite smart in that it is harder for the PM to dismiss questions sent in by the public.
On the other hand JC did not challenge DC's responses. Think he will need to be prepared to do that at some stage.
Currently suffering from deprivation of the weekly 'blood-letting'. GO looked decidedly miffed he hadn't got his weekly fix of braying at the Opposition.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 15:45:45

Did you see Angela Eagle mouthing 'not me' when he read out the question from 'Angela'? grin

Devorgilla Wed 16-Sept-15 15:52:14

She was probably just responding to puerile comments from the Government Front Bench.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 15:55:04

Oh yes, that'll be it...hmm

(except that she wasn't looking at the front bench at the time.)

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 16:14:38

Why? What are they going to achieve?

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 16:15:54

grannyknot that was for

Grannyknot Wed 16-Sept-15 16:25:27

whitewave I dunno is the short answer. Ask the BBC smile

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 16:34:37

They could ask me I suppose don't see the point though. My question was just that. All seems a bit odd, and sort of tabloid.

Luckygirl Wed 16-Sept-15 16:40:38

People raise problems with their MPs and they in their turn raise them in parliament - wasn't that exactly what JC did? If it breaks the formulaic pattern of insults then that can only be good. Many people who watch parliament are heartily sick of it. We are paying these guys to behave like that - in a way that would be frowned on in a classroom, and the teacher hauled over the coals for being unable to discipline the class.

Grannyknot Wed 16-Sept-15 18:11:47

lucky I can't imagine why anyone would carry on watching parliament or any other programme for that matter if they were heartily sick of it.

As a teetotaller perhaps JC can do his bit to influence the drinking culture in Westminster for the better, in his party and beyond. That would be good. I mean - as someone wrote in the wake of Charles Kennedy's death - what employer encourages drinking on the job?

POGS Wed 16-Sept-15 19:34:30

No winner, no loser at PMQ's

No questions asked that related to the defence of the realm, immigration/asylum mayhem/EU which are questions one would have thought the Opposition Benches may have asked.

I think the fact Corbyn asked questions of a more low key level and did not engage with Cameron on a personal level but asked questions from members of the public did not work for me

.PMQ'S is the opportunity for the Opposition Leader to rally his party, ask difficult questions of the PM, I saw no spark, no policy thinking, no sign of Corbyn wanting to make his stamp nor show what HE thinks. I do know what Steve and Angela think however.

I agree with those who will like the fact Corbyn wanted a different , inclusive style of PMQ'S he achieved his objective. However it gave Cameron the chance to answer with his policies, never looked flustered and certainly not challenged.

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 19:38:29

Give him time pogs I can remember the Tory front bench and how awful they were initially coming over as overgrown schoolboys playing at politics.

durhamjen Wed 16-Sept-15 19:57:18

I watched it with my grandson. He asked lots of intelligent questions.
I wouldn't have watched it with him in its previous form.
He actually told his mother he had watched it when she came to pick him up.

If you want youngsters to take notice of politics, it should stay like this.

I think all the questions asked were very pertinent to his leadership campaign. He is showing that he is still listening to the people who voted him in.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 20:11:48

'Still listening'? I should hope so, he's hardly been in the job for five minutes - did you expect him to stop listening just because he's now the Labour leader? confused

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 20:21:04

Did you see Angela Eagle mouthing 'not me' when he read out the question from 'Angela'?
grin

She was probably just responding to puerile comments from the Government Front Bench
They can all act like a bunch of school boys children can't they, of whatever flavour they are.

Perhaps he will get more confidence and ask his own questions in a week or so when he settles into the job.

FarNorth Wed 16-Sept-15 20:22:30

Voters have told him they disliked PMQs as it was. Voters have raised issues and he has asked questions. Where's the problem?
POGS, did you seriously prefer the rabble and the yelling and the braying? Did you subside happily once you knew who the "winner" was?

durhamjen Wed 16-Sept-15 20:25:51

Well, all the papers expected him to change straight away, Ana, and got upset when he didn't. He's even been called a traitor by some already.

absent Wed 16-Sept-15 20:27:15

Why should it be wrong/unconstitutional/other uncomplimentary things to ask questions posed by the public at PMQs but perfectly acceptable to ask a planted question so that the PM can stroke his own party, a particular person, football team, corporation, sycophant etc?

PMQs have changed considerably over the past decades as, of course, has the nature of the Commons. I have heard a rumour that ladies are allowed to become MPs nowadays.

NotTooOld Wed 16-Sept-15 21:16:57

I do wish people would stop going on about clothes. It sounds like some people would like us all to go about in Chairman Mao suits, all looking the same. Individuality is good. I hope JC goes on wearing what he is comfortable in.

whitewave Wed 16-Sept-15 21:23:05

I have had a look since all the remarks. Well he doesn't look like DC that's for sure. Good oh!

NotTooOld Wed 16-Sept-15 21:24:40

whitewave - grin

Katek Wed 16-Sept-15 21:36:17

The danger inherent in JC's approach today is that it also made DC look reasonable. Not necessarily what the opposition may want to achieve.

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 21:41:41

Yes - I wonder who will crack first?

rosesarered Wed 16-Sept-15 21:45:34

haha!

NotTooOld Wed 16-Sept-15 21:46:55

Dave will crack first. He looks like a bloke without a lot of patience.

POGS Wed 16-Sept-15 21:47:51

Far North

You are twisting my post, it happens quite a lot sadly but I will respond to your request for a response.

POGS

'Did you seriously prefer the rabble and the yelling and the braying.? Did you 'subsidise' happily once you knew who the 'winner was'.

How do you manage to twist my words so idiotically.

I said .

'I agree with those who will like the fact Corbyn wanted a different, inclusive style of PMQ's , 'HE ACHIEVED HIS OBJECTIVE' ( yes I am shouting as you obviously don't want to hear)

Because I said :-

'No winner, no loser at PMQ's' most people would accept that common phrase to be diplomatically giving both Cameron and Corbyn equal mention and devoid of political bias. Only somebody who is looking for an argument could possibly make a mountain out of the proverbial mole hill and twist that comment , as you have done.

You could have challenged me on the fact I thought his questions were weak. He showed no attempt to engage with Cameron , giving Cameron an opportunity to have his answer heard but unquestioned. He sat there expressionless even when the Irish MP's absolutely threw scorn on him and McDonnell.

I thought even Tom Watson looked uncomfortable today but I think Tom Watson and Corbyn were hailed as the golden ticket but I think they might not be as 'one' as believed, interesting watching their body language over the past few days.