Jeremy Corbyn Elected

Anya! what a truly terrible image!

I think. Rcayse you want to believe it Anya, s few posts earlier you asked a rather silly question about who was leader , your still at, perhaps you would care to share your reason for your belief ?

I would say Rcayse was Welsh for because but that would be a lie

Blimey, rosequartz, you were right about people not getting irony!

(although nice touch of humour in your last post, Anniebach )

Jen The press (and some members of GN ) just don't get democracy do they. I think the press will just find more and more are going to online sources for their information - well those that care about it being a little closer to a balance opinion.

One thing they, and others, seem to have problems with is bottom up democracy instead of top down dictatorship. All this talk about splits etc., when people do not need to be beaten into changing their views they just need to understand the meaning of democracy - difficult for those of the far right of course.

Rosesarered, why will Corbyn have to change his views and on what will he have to change his views?

Why has McCluskey got Jeremy Corbyn by the short and curlies?

I don't understand why people are missing what is so blindingly obvious.

Trident!

Absolutely brilliant headline in the Telegraph tomorrow, about Corbyn and Comrades. Every time a newspaper does that, he gets more support.

Was I watching the news from planet Zog perhaps? There are two very opposing views on Trident.

I actually feel sorry for JC as he's 'dammed if be does and dammed if he doesn't'.

What about Trident, Anya?

Ah, but he hasn't changed his views, he's just been made to realise that the rest of the party won't go along with that particular one - and there will be others no doubt.

Will there be any of his proposed policies that survive until the next election, I wonder

DJ very funny!

Trident ? Oh dear , the delegates voted today against a debate on trident this week, not a battle between Corbyn and the Unions Anya, the union delegates want to keep trident because they are doing what they are paid to do - keep people in work, other delegates voted for their reasons, the BBC chose only to interview a delegate from a union.

This is democracy, nothing decided behind closed doors but put to the vote, if you had listened to the conference this afternoon you would have heard the percentage of the votes read out, I think housing and health were top , people voted for what they considered was the most urgent for debate , Trident was not top of the list. This is how the party use to work before new labour took decision making away from the people , Corbyn has given it back.

It's called democracy, as Gracesgran said.
If you watch the party conference, you will see why it is not being debated. Most people at the conference think things like housing, education and the NHS are more important at the moment.
Next year they might change their minds.

Of course Tories do not recognise democracy. That's why Cameron is trying to get through an agreement with the housing associations without the discussion going back to parliament.

Crossed posts, Anniebach.

Annie I respect your opinion, but I do think that this was the political version of a paso doble, with neither side willing to grasp the bull by the nettles as it were.

We did Jen, I am glad you said housing and NHS, the number of votes, percentages etc were rather a lot to absorb, I know Trident wasn't bottom but not in the number they could debate this week

Is that a better image roses?

Anya, it isn't my opinion, it's fact, it how the party works , if today's conference is on catch up you will be able to hear the reading of the results yourself , if they didn't hold the vote the conference could run on for weeks , I think putting debates to the vote is democratic, I would be furious if they announced - trident will be discussed because the leader said so

Democracy, eh! It does mess up the headlines.

Eloethan and whitewave are there. No doubt they will tell us what happened in the vote on subjects to be democratically discussed.

On second thoughts hold the bull image and substitute an ostrich

It's a great disappointment to the BBC Jen , there were delegates who voted for a debate on trident, not one was interviewed.