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Remembrance Day Ceremony

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Devorgilla Fri 23-Oct-15 22:22:12

This is to be cut short because of the age of the Queen and other Veterans. Fair enough! They are getting on a bit...BUT why should only David Cameron have the right to lay a wreath as a Government Official? Don't know about you but I take exception to this in the Year of the Somme. The majority of dead and injured were from the working class so why do we deny other parties more representative of that group the right to lay the wreath? By all means make life easier for her Majesty but let all parties be represented. It is important to me and I think a lot of other people who knew families whose men never came home. You were wrongly advised on this Your Majesty and should reverse the decision.

rosequartz Sat 24-Oct-15 14:27:49

And those who were lost and their relatives too, of course.

rosequartz Sat 24-Oct-15 14:32:31

anniebach I did not mean you on this thread either when I said 'disgusting', I meant the leaders of the more minor political parties creating a fuss, either for their own egos or to make political capital out of this most sober of days.
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nigglynellie Sat 24-Oct-15 14:32:46

I agree rosequartz, I think this is precisely what they're about, and frankly the sooner the better, at least we could all quarrel in peace!!!!

Anniebach Sat 24-Oct-15 16:59:58

It was rosesarered who claimed I held my views because of 'class' Rosequartz , a lie but that doesn't matter to her. So I said my views are not based on politics or class, I truely think the service should be the same as other years and I am sorry the veterans and the queen find it too much because of their age , but for me one day in the year which is purely for Rememberance shared by our four countries plus the commonwealth countries should not be tampered with to please a few people.

nigglynellie Sat 24-Oct-15 17:22:34

It's not pleasing a few people! It's showing consideration and concern to very elderly infirmed people on a cold November day. Perhaps you feel they shouldn't be there at all, and it should just be for the young and fit. Perhaps you weren't affected in any way by any conflict, and just fail to understand how much this day means to these old soldiers, and the pride they feel. Old fashioned I know, and probably pretty pathetic to some; but very real to them, and surely a little diplomatic concern and compassion has to be a good thing - but clearly not to the lesser parties, who will never miss a chance to make something of nothing to make a political point.

Anniebach Sat 24-Oct-15 17:33:59

Really Nigglynellie? There are hundreds of veterans? Not a case of only wanting the young and fit, trust you to twist things . I have given my opinion without resorting to sniping , doesn't work here does it

rosesarered Sat 24-Oct-15 17:34:54

looks like it's just you anniebach that thinks in a certain way.Why you do, God knows, but it sounds very unpleasant.

ajanela Sat 24-Oct-15 17:38:06

Why can't the queen and duke of Edinburgh lay their wreaths and then go inside and watch from a window or go home. The younger royals can do the rest.

Anniebach Sat 24-Oct-15 17:45:15

A very good idea anjela.

Rosesarered , your opinion of me troubles me not in the slightest.

rosesarered Sat 24-Oct-15 17:47:07

And the opinions of everyone else? For a Christian, your posts have not been at all caring about people.

Ana Sat 24-Oct-15 17:48:02

What about the veterans, some of whom are even older than the Queen and Duke? I'm sure they wouldn't want to be packed off after the initial wreath-laying, although they'd probably appreciate not having to stand around for so long (even in a wheechair the weather can sometimes be pretty inclement in November!).

rosesarered Sat 24-Oct-15 17:48:05

Maybe this is what puts people off Christians.

rosesarered Sat 24-Oct-15 17:49:05

Exactly, Ana which is why a slightly shortened ceremony would have been a good idea.

Ana Sat 24-Oct-15 17:49:09

(my question was to ajenela, BTW)

Ana Sat 24-Oct-15 17:50:01

x posts, roses

Anniebach Sat 24-Oct-15 17:50:13

rosesarered, please , the playing of the ' for a Christian ' card has been played so often on this forum it's boring and pathetic ,

Elegran Sat 24-Oct-15 17:50:29

If it is the consideration being given to an elderly queen that sticks in the throat, then perhaps it is time to consider two things.

The sovereign is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, and as such it is her duty to be present and take the salute at the service of remembrance for those who died while serving under her. She would no doubt consider it a dereliction of that duty to leave early.

The older (and well venerated) veterans who find the long service in the cold a great strain would think it a disgrace to admit that the ceremony was too much for them, but their respect and chivalry toward their ageing female sovereign, who they swore to serve when they joined the armed forces, would allow them to accept a shortened ceremony out of concern for her.

So it was not just that pesky royal personage whose comfort (and pride) was considered. Not that it matters now, as it seems that it is back to the long-drawn-out status quo.

Anniebach Sat 24-Oct-15 17:54:53

Full respect for those thousands and thousands of war dead , many were teenagers, who died lying in the mud , is second to the comfort of those eho have lived a long life ? Not for me

rosesarered Sat 24-Oct-15 17:58:44

That was your most ridiculous and melodramatic post to date!

Elegran Sat 24-Oct-15 17:59:44

Kill the old ones off to join their comrades, eh?

Anniebach Sat 24-Oct-15 18:00:32

Suppose you keep a file rosesarered , poor you

rosesarered Sat 24-Oct-15 18:05:40

No need, the posts are there for all to see! grin

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