Attacks in Paris

There is prostitution in many countries ( where the religion is mainly Muslim as well.)What the extremists really hate is the fact that Western countries live so well.They may have lots of warped ideas, but they also want expensive watches, mobiles and other material things, you will find that the 'top dogs' in ISIS do very well for themselves.Needless to say they enjoy power.
Harder to police their borders for the French authorities than for us, but the French will now have to really up security.I think that our security is very good, but crazies willing to blow themselves up are always a possibility.
I certainly agree with Alea that this thread was started in shock at the Paris atrocities, and shouldn't be used as a springboard for ' every death in the world counts the same' stuff. Actually it doesn't, btw, because I would happily see every ISIS member dead.

I think it's important to remember that IS attacks both Muslim and non-Muslims. So many lost their lives or were injured in Paris, I am sure we will find some of the the victims were Muslim, just as with previous terrorist attacks. These terrorists are ^ 'jihadists who adhere to an extreme interpretation of Sunni Islam and consider themselves the only true believers. They hold that the rest of the world is made up of unbelievers who seek to destroy Islam, justifying attacks against other Muslims and non-Muslims alike.'^ (from BBC website).

Why on earth would terrorists leave passports behind unless it was a deliberate act to suit their evil ends? This article expands on this and explains why ISIS does not want Europe to help the poor Syrians trying to flee from them.
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This is a really good article.

Interested to read that many in IS are Saddam Hussein's followers. Something else we got wrong.

I weep for Paris the same way as I weep for Syria, Lebanon, Africa - anywhere that has suffered or is suffering from these attacks. Paris has hit hard because it's so close to home, but appallingly, we seem to have grown inured to the daily slaughter elsewhere. Granjura I am quietly with you - we are a mixed family with a fair number of Muslims, and I'll leave it there, suffice to say I hold my heart tight, otherwise it would break for them.

They should never have allowed mass immigration.This could be only the beginning.Nobody should fear being shot or blown up in their own country.Governments must get tough,look after the innocent.That French man hit the nail on the head," if anybody doesn't like Europe and our way of life,then go home".

I watched the news today and I was very sad, I have never been to Paris but would love to go I see it as a beautiful multi cultural city and have never associated it with violence or terror. Last January was an exception. Now I wonder will Britain be next, there was a bomb in Gatwick last night, closing one of the terminals. It is coming closer. It is scary

Don't anyone dare to hint racism.Our family,as I've already told you,is made up of many different creeds.Most born here.All integrated.

I wonder whether consideration for the fact that there is a possible vote for going into Syria stays the terrorists hands here in the UK?

Possibly an attack in London along the Parisian line would almost certainly ensure a vote by parliament to bomb IS.

Police identify first gunman and make several arrests as hunt for terrorists widens across Europe

Egypt's Grand Mufti, an influential religious scholar within Sunni Islam, has denounced Friday's attacks.

"This attack is shocking, and offends the conscience of every sane person, regardless of their religious identity. I wish to stress categorically and unequivocally our complete solidarity and unwavering support for the French people in their plight and their determination to combat terror.

"Terrorist groups flagrantly use religion as a cloak to cover up for their cowardly acts of violence. Their ideological fallacy reveal their warped logic and ill-informed and unauthentic sources which they turn to in order to derive their justification for their insatiable desire for power, control and bloodshed. These ideologies of hate and terror must be challenged and rooted out."

I would like to make it clear that when I said, "bomb the lot of them", I was of course, referring to fighters. Not ordinary people in the region. Just in case anyone thought otherwise. Which is quite likely on Gransnet.

I was interested to hear that, of 700 people who had gone to Syria to join IS, 400 have been allowed to come back here. Big mistake IMHO. They may all be pleading that it was all a big mistake, but I hope someone's watching them.

They closed the Andrew Marr show with the French National Anthem (can't spell it I'm afraid; I learned my French from an HP sauce bottle!) this morning. I can't have been the only one who had tears in her eyes.

Stephen Fry put a tribute on twitter, excellent

Jingle, the fighters you want to bomb do not wear sweat shirts declaring I'm a fighter. America bombed and killed MSF staff working in a hospital, but that was ok because they said - sorry, it was a mistake , big mistake when they bombed for thirty minutes even after being told it was a hospital . MSF has claimed it was a war crime but no demands from the west for justice for this war crime

I expect the parents of the little boy who drowned and his little body washed up on a beach thought it fair exchange for a watch and a new mobile

JessM that's probably the best article I've read about the whole crises and in my heart I know it's a generational war I fear the most - and have done most of my adult life. Thank you for the link.

Marmark1 IS is also targeting those who do like the European way of life. Many found safety here and IS want them to return to the IS caliphate and be governed by Islamic law. It's almost a century since the last caliphate and there are reasons why it did nor prosper.

My heart goes out to those who are still looking for news about missing families and friends.

I didn't jing I get used to you shooting from the hip. You wear your heart on your sleeve - nothing wrong with that. Just don't carry out your threats immediately

Sorry about two cliches!

Why is that anniebach? because you have got a post all wrong ( no change there then!) Were the parents of the little boy members of ISIS, is this what you are saying?My last post said that the thugs and killers known as ISIS liked their up to date technology and luxeries, so why do you twist posts to suit your own ( unknown) ends?

I think this is war now, don't you anniebach? Sadly. Perhaps you want to be a be-haloed pacifist while your children and grandchildren are put at huge risk?

Rosesarered, you said - what the extremists hate etc, and then followed up with ISIS wearing watches etc

Not all extremists are part of ISIS

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