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soontobe Tue 17-Nov-15 08:14:07

I dont get it.

Would they do self defence or not?
Would they defend a neighbour or not?
Would they defend somone at the end of their street that they did not know very well, or not?
Would they defend someone who they didnt know who lived in the next town, who they came across that needed defending?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34832023

Or is it a case of, they are not happy about it, but would do it if they had to?

TriciaF Wed 18-Nov-15 17:39:13

I've just read this thread and all I can say is .... Soon , you are out of your depth. Back out and leave it to your elders.

nigglynellie Wed 18-Nov-15 17:46:25

My father was killed in 1942, my Stepfather was a PO W in the Far East, my uncle was in the Northamtonshire regiment fighting on the beaches on D day and on through to the Rhine and My second cousin was in the Reconnaissance Corp in North Africa. He died of wounds in 1945. My Grandfather was in the Ox and Bucks from 1915-1919, fighting on the Western Front, ending in Ireland. I think our family had had enough of those two wars, and can only pray that DGS never ever has to face another.

petra Wed 18-Nov-15 17:49:17

TriciaF. She won't back off.

soontobe Wed 18-Nov-15 18:08:46

* Soon , you are out of your depth. Back out and leave it to your elders.*

I started the thread because I know I dont know as much as some, so was interested to learn.
I didnt know that "younger people" are not allowed to ask "elders" things.

JamJar1 Wed 18-Nov-15 18:36:10

Don't divulge unless you are happy to soon but I must admit I am curious about these skills your family had. Yes I am being very nosy and again don't reply if you really would rather not.

TriciaF Wed 18-Nov-15 19:37:53

Soon - your thread topic is a very interesting one. Loads of responses, but you don't need to stay "in control". Just let it flow!
That's what I meant.

soontobe Wed 18-Nov-15 19:46:50

I didnt know I was, but will bear it in mind.smile

Ana Wed 18-Nov-15 20:10:54

Yes, JamJar, it's all very mysterious! The occupations couldn't have been carried out in another country 'and would have been totally against the point'...confused

And the skills have been handed down through the generations (and are presumably being carried on even now by soon and her family).

Pig farmers?

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:12:29

Soon , you are out of your depth. Back out and leave it to your elders

Patronising or what! Probably what - just plain rude.
shock

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:13:21

It's your thread soontobe
Post what you like (as long as it is not offensive or personal)

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:14:31

But it can be as enigmatic as you like grin

Anniebach Wed 18-Nov-15 20:39:44

Breeding silk worms ?

Ana Wed 18-Nov-15 20:41:16

Good thinking, Anniebach!

JamJar1 Wed 18-Nov-15 20:45:27

We are never, ever going to know. grin

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:47:56

anniebach I think you may have an idea there. Silk for parachutes?

My DU didn't go because he was a farmer and food was needed. They were sent some German prisoners of war to work on the farm - they were thankful and glad to be out of it.

Anniebach Wed 18-Nov-15 20:50:56

Well, we can rule out Bletchley Park,

I cannot think who could be stopped from joining up if they wished to , unless ???? oh

Ana Wed 18-Nov-15 20:53:10

shock surely not?

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 18-Nov-15 20:55:57

I think you're being mean.

mcem Wed 18-Nov-15 20:57:42

What about female family members?
My mother took over from a man to carry out NAAFI work running distribution centres and warehouses to supply troops at home and abroad. MiL was conscripted to work in a munitions factory in the midlands, far from her job in a pharmacy in Aberdeen while FiL was a merchant seaman.
Grandmother ran the family business while G'dad was in the RAF. Paternal G'parents spent the war in India.
The only reason I'm going into detail is because I've always been aware of these different roles in wartime and like ana am interested that both sides of soon's family, male and female, for 3 (or is it 4?) generations had the same vital skills and simply cannot think of what they might be apart from farming.

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:58:44

Police officers were required to stay in their posts and there were one or two in vital occupations besides the police who were forbidden to enlist.

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:59:14

I mean one or two vital occupations, not one or two people!

Ana Wed 18-Nov-15 21:00:48

Those sort of skills wouldn't have been handed down through the generations though.

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 21:02:25

Oh, must read the posts properly.

um, all I can think of then is farming. Certainly I don't think that DU joined up, he was needed to help to feed the country.

soontobe Wed 18-Nov-15 21:03:57

I'll let them have their fun. It is ok Wilma thanks smile

merlotgran Wed 18-Nov-15 21:07:14

Blacksmith/Farrier?

Steelworker?

Shipbuilders?