Should we bomb De-ash/ISIS in Syria?

Corbyn did not vote for bombing strikes in Iraq, roses. He used to be the leader of the Stop the War coalition until he became the leader of the Labour Party. Why would he vote for them?
But what can he do about stopping them in Iraq? Nothing. That's just a red herring in this debate.
Why does Cameron need to ask about bombing in Syria if it's just a formality, after Iraq?

If he has been working here for years, why is his viewpoint of interest?Another ( opposite) viewpoint could easily be found, a Syrian who says ' kill Daesh wherever they can be found, they murdered my Father and raped my sister'. that is why interviewing and reporting comments from random people is meaningless.

And let's stop telling other posters who they should 'empathise with' please, that much over used word on this forum.

Oh! silly me of course that must be it. An IS plant on the BBC news asking us not to bomb

I know that Corbyn didn't vote for strikes in Iraq, Djen, being a pacifist ( and therefore quite unsuited to be a leader of any country, so we have to hope it will never come to that) he won't vote for military action on anything at all.Even when it's needed.

Much like "They came for me" another of your gems rose

Durhamjen

Your post of 19.36 just proves the sheer hypocrisy and the nasty side of those who have the misguided belief they are some sort of conscience of the world.

A free vote and voting with your conscience is democratic and more to the point a principal that should be held most dear whether you be a Member of Parliament to the man in the street. I am not shocked by some people and especially Those from Stop The War as I think democracy eludes them.

Your post is a ' total affirmation ' of the truth so many Labour MP's are reporting, abusive behaviour, threat of deselection , and probably the worst of them all emotional blackmail that they have been subjected to/will continue to experience.

It was expected this behaviour would happen and to be frank I honestly believe there will be at some stage physical abuse and how ironic it could be at the hand of those 'proporting' to be kind, decent, liberal, pacifists.

I think Alan Johnson called it as it is when he spoke of the "self-righteous certitude of finger jabbing colleagues". Couldn't have put it better myself sir.

Telling a poster they are talking rubbish is so wrong, some here really think they control the forum, correcting posters spelling, telling a poster their posts are melodramatic , telling posters they are talking rubbish, telling a poster they post too many links. It's ill mannered , offensive and bullying

Why is that amusing? Are you saying they actually do want us to bomb Syria?

Anyone used the word empathise today? Can't remember it, but I'm sure you'll put me right, roses.

No pacifists are allowed to be leader of any country? What a strange world you live in.

Anniebach, that really is the pot calling the kettle black! Some of your posts could be construed as personal attacks and I'm surprised they haven't been reported.

Ana is pointing out, that nobody should swallow ' hook line and sinker' every person and their viewpoint that are pushed in front of a camera.

I agree anniebach so why do you do it?

whitewave that particular poem, gets mentioned far too many times on here, as another poster once said , when people start bringing the Nazis into the conversation, they have lost the arguement....

And if the Syrian said please bomb what sort of plant would that have been?

oh yes, Djen, 'empathise' is making a comeback, it was only a matter of time.

Yes I know that rose that was from another one of your lectures, you told another gran off if I remember correctly. I expect she was duly chastened.

Military strikes will only add fuel to the fire. I'm assuming our politicians aren't a bunch of knee-jerk idiots who would rush out and bomb Syria to get revenge for what happened in Paris, so they must have some goal they are keeping from us. Maybe they're hoping to take control of the oil before the Americans claim it?

Roses, you were the one that mentioned it, nobody else.
I said I went cold when whitewave said about the Syrian you think ran away from his brothers and sisters.
Just read that there is a majority of those in the shadow cabinet who will vote no.

A Tory MP has just said that Corbyn was a teller for the nos in last year's vote on Iraq, so the MPs had no need to ask about that.

What a lot of people seem to really dislike, is that Labour MP's who are voting tonight as they think fit ( all the other parties MP's doing the same of course) are somehow disloyal.Alan Johnson, Hilary Benn and Yvette Cooper are moderate Labour MP's who will be voting with the Government, along with I'm sure, many others.Loads of them disagree with Jeremy Corbyn on many, many, things, but this issue is too important for any MP just to toe the party line.

MP Keir Starmer, the former director of public prosecutions, has said he will vote against airstrikes.

He says that the UN resolution does not in itself authorise force, but he accepts that it implies authorisation and could be used to provide a legal basis for action that has already been taken and that may be taken after the vote.

" The question for me is whether, if lawful, the action is none-the-less compelling and coherent. The argument that there’s no logic taking military action in Iraq but not in Syria is seductive and powerful, but in the end it’s unconvincing. Mr Speaker, the situation in Syria is very different to the situation in Iraq... that does not mean there should be no response in Syria and there is much in the prime minister’s motion that I would agree with... but whether there is to be airstrikes is another matter... Airstrikes without an effective ground force are unlikely to make any meaningful contribution to defeating Daesh. There is no effective groundforce."

An excellent and compelling speech, wouldn't you agree, POGS?

Djen, since you need it spelling out for you, and whitewave is keeping quiet,
Look further up the page, her post says, and I quote ' simply because he does not match your narrative should not be an excuse to rubbish someone with whom you should empathise not criticise.'
there, that do you?

And all your 'going cold' and 'weeping' is doing no one (least of all that Syrian) any good at all. Get a grip!

Djen, you can ( and do) produce endless links and also verbatim bits of speech from others.Why not, as others have asked you, just produce your own thoughts?

The majority of people in this country do not want to bomb Syria. That's the sort of democracy I agree with, POGS.

Corbyn has actually condemned all bullying of all MPs whichever side they vote on. A whip on a matter of conscience is the supreme form of bullying.