What ideas are there instead of bombing?

You need to embrace the truth Anniebach. There is no hiding place anywhere. Nothing remains hidden.

Do tell me where my engagement ring is soon, my elder daughter hid it in 1971

As Annie knows we don't always agree. But I know exactly what she is getting at and agree completely.

stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/nobel-peace-laureate-mairead-maguire-brings-a-message-from-syrian-children

Sad, this. Too late as well.

Yes so very sad. We must hope it isn't shown to those who voted to bomb Syria , they may get upset ? Na

Of course they will not, Annie. Just children, after all.
However, this might upset them.

stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/war-veterans-to-discard-medals-in-protest-against-uk-bombing-of-syria

What a waste of medals! I suppose they could melt them down and recast them; give them to those who appreciate them.

djen and anniebach I really think your posts are beyond awful, how about you think what time of the year it nearly is, and spread a little goodwill instead of these kind of posts?

Oh, I can just imagine the response you'll get to that suggestion, roses!

One lives in hope.

Although one does not always expect too much!

why not lead the way?

I think that people who wallow in gloom, doom and complete negative thinking are not doing themselves or others, any favours.
The vote has been taken by MP's to try and rid Syria of Daesh, or at least to destroy oil fields and whatever they can, to weaken this awful terrorist group.This constant harping on about it, does nobody any good.

Yes, petallus I will do just that.
let's all hope that Britain and all the other countries involved will be able to bring peace eventually to Syria, to destroy Daesh, and to unite as much as possible the various groups into power sharing.It won't be quick, and it won't be simple, but hopefully will be doable.

Bring peace by bombing?
Perhaps all those who supported bombing should have remembered what time of year it is!

I do not suppose you even bothered looking at Mairead Maguire's message either.

www.peacepeople.com/?p=886

Corbyn's response.

Anniebach and durhamjen

You both are very happy to use a holier than thou rhetoric and yet you only see your comments in a one directional path.

Anniebach 19.36

"We must hope it isn't shown to those who voted to bomb Syria, they may get upset. NA"

Durhamjen 19.41

"Of course they will not Annie, Just children after all"

If I were a horrible natured , egocentric I could equally ask you what you thought of an interview with a young girl who escaped from Syria and now helps run a safe camp in Iraq for Yazidi girls who had been raped by IS who have escaped from mostly Raqqa after seeing babies slaughtered, children and women raped and sold into slavery . She said that the girls would wait for the planes to go over as it was there one chance to try and escape from IS barbarity.

One thing I would not do is make an assumption that because you do not agree with the coalition bombing you were lacking in empathy for those women and
children suffering at the hands of IS because that would be to mind a cruel, comtemptable and taking a loathsome view as I know perfectly well you would never be anything other than sad for them also.

There is no less sadness felt by all posters as your frequent comments would have you believe. The reality is whether we do or whether we do not believe we should join in with fight against IS , men, women, children and babies are dying every day but more so at the hands of Assad and IS who do not have any desire to give them the chance, the hope of freedom from the tyranny of IS nor Assad and his constant onslaught of barrel bombs and possibly using phosphorous chemicals.

So instead we ignore the fact that the children in Homs do not want to be bombed. We bomb them for their own good.

TBH roses, if it makes them feel good then I'm quite happy to leave them to it, and of course no one has to read the interminable links.

POGS, I agree with your post, but it's a waste of time trying to have any sort of dialogue with those two on this subject.

I read an article by Matt Carr on the stop the war website. In it, he compares dash/Islamic state with the International Brigade. He states that whilst the International Brigade fought for the oppressed working classes, Daesh/IS fight for oppressed Muslims.

I also found a link to comments from Peter Tatchell, who complained about Diane Abbot, who he alleged refused to allow Syrian spokespeople to participate in a Stop the War meeting.

Apologies for the absence of links. I was genuinely shocked and dismayed by these allegations. What does this mean for the stop the war campaign?

So you only like to have a dialogue with people who agree with you, do you, Ana?
The thread is about what to do instead of bombing. Some on here appear to have forgotten.

Title of thread is not Christmas festivities , it has Bomb in it . I will not and cannot forget the children in Syria

POGS,you can choose to believe more bombing will stop IS, will stop rape and murder ,I do not m I feel deeply for those who suffer at the hands of IS and I feel deeply for those who live daily with bombing raids , never knowing if the next one dropped will be the end of their lives

Those who choose to mock , carry on

So you only like to have a dialogue with people who agree with you, do you, Ana?

Yet another of your erroneous assumptions based on your prejudices, durhamjen.

You have illustrated my point very well, thank you!

Those who choose to mock, carry on
were you talking to yourself there anniebach?
Your tone has been mocking towards certain posters throughout.

And don't you dare say I have no sympathy for the Syrian children.

Or do we say to the children in Homs we are sorry for you but forgive us we cannot get involved this is your problem we will do nothing to try and stop Assad and the barbaric IS from coming to enslave you at best but at the worst kill you with barrel bombs , phosphorous chemicals and beheading, crucifixion and raping your mother in front of you .

We have differing opinions but not one of our views will stop the slaughter, doing something has consequences , doing nothing has conseuences.

The one thing that this sorry mess does not allow is for any one of us to believe that our chosen route can relieve us of some kind of guilt, give us some kind of impunity because which ever thought we hold our action causes the same problems, whether that be to believe in fighting or whether that be to stand idly by and just spout words of sorrow and empathy.

Both views have equal consequences but only an egocentric believes they can absolve themselves from blame because the truth is Syrians are damned if we do damned if we don't. I just wish people would remember the civil war in Syria started because the people wanted democracy and turned on Assad, he in turn decided to slaughter his people. To read some posts you would think the UK started it and is enjoying it.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.