Labour MP's harassment

iam64

I think what John McDonnell said is what they call 'damning with faint praise'

I think HB could have swayed my opinion if I had had to vote. Thank goodness I didn't.

What is happening to Stella Creasey and others is so unpleasant and brings to mind a paradox, a contradiction in terms: aggressive pacifist.
That is something I have thought about a lot today (when I was in a place of beauty and peace) - why are people who profess to be pacifists so aggressive to those who have a differing opinion?

My knowledge of twitter is zero. When people use it do their names come up or can they choose a user name?

Oh dear, what a mess of confusion, accusation and regret. Surely there are more important things to worry about than some kind of spat of gransnet.

I've just heard Hilary Benn's contribution to the debate yesterday, played in full on radio 4 's news between 5 and 6 pm. HB voted for bombing, I would have voted against, as did my local (Labour) MP. I listened to much of the debate yesterday (I'd switched off by the time HB spoke) and was impressed by the way most contributors spoke. Which ever side they were supporting, my impression was that MP's had researched, read, consulted constituents, agonised about the significance of their vote.

I did see Stella Creasey leave the debate and later read the reason why. I noticed on my MP's Facebook page that a number of people had posted images of dead children/bombed cities in Syria as their way of encouraging him to vote NO. I'd had an email discussion with him earlier this week and so knew which way he'd planned to go and was relieved. Despite this, I didn't find it easy to come down on NO. Daesh throw gay men off buildings, they enslave women and girls (and I'm sure boys though they never get a mention) into sexual slavery. They do need to be stopped, no doubt in my mind about that.

I can't stop my rant without reference to John MacDonald who made a grudging praise of HB but then compared his speech to the one Blair made when taking the country into the Iraq war. I know HB supported those wars but I don't see him as the devil incarnate

rosequartz , if I had made up a name I would have forgotten it within 24 hours , just as well only one Anniebach , one putting foot in it is enough

There is only one Anniebach

Rosequartz , I am guilty, I have confused you with rosesarered, only the name not the tone of the posts

Some of our user names are very similar.
People often confuse me with someone else

I have found the thread - Should GB be a world power - I don't do victim rosesarered , I am no victim,

I made an awful error for which I apologise Anya, it was not you it was Alea.

Please accept my apology , I cannot unsay what I said , wish I could, but I sincerely apologise , feel even worse because of the kindness you showed me when my dog was so very ill, this puzzled me more, how someone who could be so kind could be so unpleasant . You were kind and you were not unpleasant. I am very sorry

Annie

gillybob
It is sad to see that, whatever party or walk of life really, there are always those with their 'snouts in the trough'.
Snouts in the trough funded by public money.

was not were in 2nd para
Typo!!

Annie you know full well that us Labour Party Members are a tiny part of the voting public (about 1%)
Anya I hadn't realised that it was as low as 1%; certainly my family members who always vote Labour have been very upset at the election of Corbyn.

People talk about returning to the 'roots' of the party. The Labour Party grew out of the poverty and injustices that the working classes genuinely suffered. Children starving and cold, whole families homeless, factory owners who cared not a jot for their workforce, no decent education system, no health care, and so on.
That is why my DF, and a lot of my family still are, were staunch Labour but I know that my DF would be appalled at the election of Corbyn.

He doesn't have to be replaced by a Blairite. DF wouldn't have approved of Blair either, and neither do my family members, they loathe him as much as I do.
Miliband was not the answer either.

(ps I always thought it was spelt buggar, until I was enlightened on GN, not that I would ever use such a word myself )

if my MP had voted for the bombing I would certainly be asking that she fully explain her views and possibly pointing out that she failed to represent me properly
But they are not just representing one constituent.

When I read the thread again and see I made an error I will apologise , rosesarered will surely advise which thread so this can be cleared up

Then who was it rosesarered ? If not Anya I want to apologise , I couldn't care less if told I have made a spelling error, this was different , two were involved and a third asked for the bullying to stop

Obviously some are not grown up enough to admit they made a mistake and apologise for what was a particularly nasty and personal post, roses...

Trisher perhaps I should have said phobia. I was using dyslexia as an example of spelling disabilities . It is something which bothers me considerably.

It was not Anya that made a remark about your wrong spelling anniebach. I have a good memory for some things, and can tell you that you are wrong.In any case, why go on about it? you did a wrong spelling, somebody pulled you up on it, so what, we are all grown ups ( presumably).
I do hate all this victim stuff, for no good reason.
In any case, I doubt that you make as many typo's as I do.

Well I'm back now and still waiting Annie ....

Just watching tv interviews now, Labour's John Mann complaining about the Socialist bully boys, Stella Creasy had to leave the Commons during the debate to cope with her office staff who were being sent horrible abuse.Some woman from the Walthamstow Socialists is also on, saying that she and others will do what they can to get her reselected ! unbelievable.So much for a free vote, they only believe in democracy when it suits them, what a shower these people are.

But that is totally different to really being dyslexic and being unable to read or write without a great deal of effort. In fact the poster making the errors may be dyslexic. As I said it is a disability not a choice. Saying a spelling mistake negates what someone says isn't acceptable criticism.

Read stansgran's post again, Trisher. I think she is saying that it is as though she has dyslexia, and seeing mistakes makes it difficult for her to read any further.

As the mother of a dyslexic I find this highly insulting to those with a real disability. Would you for example make the same remark about someone who was blind?- oh I can't bear to look at that I suppose it's the same as being blind- I don't think so. Hidden disabilities are not something that should be treated so lightly either.

Really Stansgran?

I am one of those unfortunate souls for whom a spelling mistake negates anything sensible or interesting which the poster writes. I think it's like a form of dyslexia for me. I don't even read posts where there is a mistake in the heading but I don't think I've seen anyone comment either.

possiblybecauseihaventreadanyfurther

But we know that MPs are self-serving and truly unpleasant, don't we? The half-decent ones get over-looked or are labelled cranks...