Labour MP's harassment

I live half an hour from Oldham and I don't think it's accurate to describe jim's victory as a foregone conclusion. UKIP ran an active campaign. Several media outlets suggested UKIP could win. The daily mail called it close run even after the count was in. The candidate was excellent, a local man, already well known as a councillor. Those videos who claimed it would be a test of jc's leadership have gone quiet other than to restate the old adage about putting a pit pony up in that constituency and as long as it's wearing a labour rosette, it'll win
I think the new mp told it accurately, when he said he'd been voted in because people in our northern towns feel neglected, we don't believe the northern power house is a genuine attempt to diminish the north south divide. I'm relieved the new mp has a good majority

When did Oldham last have anything BUT a Labour MP, and this one won easily, just as usual!

Sir Winston Churchill was elected Conservative MP for Oldham in 1900 Roses.

A long time ago!

Tory party has very safe seats, I suppose the most safest seat for labour has to be Merthyr, in Wales. The first labour MP was the founder of the Labour Party and it has labour since,I do recall it going independant labour once, the Labour Party decided S O Davies was too old to stand, he disagreed so stood as independant Labour, he had been MP for Merthyr for many years, that election the voters remained loyal and he won. So not all safe labour seats safe are they

I remember that, or am I thinking of another, more recent one?

Peter Law, Blaneau Gwent?

Oldham is a safe Labour seat for goodness sake, and has been for yonks, so what's with all this whooooo, Labour won the seat stuff? It was never in danger from UKIP.

Sorry, Blaenau,, getting my e's in a twist

Watching the news from Oldham, residents said that they all liked Jim whatsit, and that Corbyn had nothing to do with it either way.The rest just voted Labour because most people there just do.

Yes, but the two candidates mentioned weren't Tories or UKIP (which was not in existence then)
They were Labour candidates in all but name, but who did not toe the party line.

They liked Jim because he is a local man concerned with local issues (and of course did not have to vote the day before, just missed it).

Are you talking about Wales RQ ??

No, if you mean the 'Jim' post I mean Oldham, i heard people saying that on the news. Let's hope he is a good MP for all his constituents.

The other two, O S Davies and Peter Law were both Welsh MPs.

I think we had X posts and X purposes!

At least the Labour MP's voted with their own views, heard during the debate several Tory MP's say they were going to vote with their party despite having grave doubts they were making the right decision. Doesn't sound as the Tories gave their MP's the free vote that Labour did. The result could have been different if they had been able to. Cameron rushed this vote though when public opinion against bombing was rising.

Cameron wouldn't even allow a two day debate which halved the time discussions and debates couldc be held, he wanted a yes vote at all costs

I'm surprised that no one seems to realise that this is a PR policy created to divert everyone's attention from the very real bullying scandal in the Tory party which led to the suicide of a young Tory activist called Elliot Johnson.
Google him why don't you. Read what his distaught father has to say about the Tory Activists' bullying that led to Elliot's death.
This resulted in the resignation of Grant Shap MP (Conservative party chairman) last week and the announcement of an 'independent' enquiry. Yet the media including the BBC are focusing instead on possible 'bullying' of Labour MPs by their electorate etc etc
NB We have every right to lobby our MPs before they vote on our behalf.
Everyone who tweets should know that it's very easy to stop annoying or threatening responses. You just press the 'block' button and they can't contact you ever again. Such tweets usually come from immature lads possibly your grandchildren 'winding people up'.
Also the press take information from such nuisance tweets and build them up into bullying stories which are later discovered to be untrue eg the march of activists on Stella Creasey's home. Google this why don't you and you will find an apology from Stella Creasey for this inaccurate information.
Please wise up to the ways of the media in this country. For starters find out who owns and controls our newspapers.

So Sarandig Do you think the report on BBC Radio 4 on the One O'clock news, that Simon Danczuk (Labour MP for Rochdale) had received death threats was a fabrication too?

www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2015/dec/04/stella-creasy-crushes-story-about-protest-outside-her-house
Here is the story about Stella Creasey.
She didn't apologise - she had nothing to apologise for.
She just set the record straight.
The fact remains that she has been on the receiving end of vile abuse.

Yes, apparently she did receive vile abuse and threats - as she has done for campaigning on issues relating to equality and recognition for women. In that particular case, was it therefore assumed that all men are ignorant louts who hate women? I think not. There are always idiots around who have nothing better to do than send barely literate threats and insults to people with whom they disagree, but their behaviour should not be assumed to be representative of anyone other than themselves.

Fair point Eloethan. I do try to avoid the tendency that can accompany getting older, that is believing everything is getting worse, that manners are a thing of the past etc. I do worry though that high expressed emotion, I.e shouting abusively is becoming more common. Maybe not, but perhaps Twitter and the Internet has allowed some unpleasant people more freedom of expression than previously