Labour MP's harassment

HR policy Sarandig?
I think it's you who needs to wise up personally; very insulting to the MPs receiving death threats.

Sarandig

How clever of the Tories to devise such a clever PR stunt.

They have obviously manipulated Labour MP's such as Alan Johnson, Stella Creasy, Chris Bryant, Nick Coyle, John Mann, Anne Coffey etc. Have you not registered in your mind that Jeremy Corbyn, Tom Watson John McDonald have also accepted that the harassment has taken place ? Cameron must be a bloody miracle worker to get them behind his PR stunt. What utter tosh!!!!

We don't need to Google the Tory bullying issue either !! You obviously haven't noticed there is an entire thread dedicated to the Tory 'bullying' problem. You may not have noticed the story in the media but I assure you it has not been hidden from the public nor from Gransnetters, another load of tosh.

As for the press that is the usual tired old rant from the left when they have nothing to say but try to deflect from debating. A bit like moving the thread into another direction. These are not made up stories nor are they being elaborated on, we are seeing and hearing from the horses mouth so to speak by the MP's themselves. There is no conspiracy theory, well unless it is the one you subscribe to that this is a Tory plot, a right wing press conspiracy and Labour MP's from Jeremy Corbyn down have been recruited to join in with the Tory plot.

I am sure the police will find the person who threatened to kill Danczuk and prosecute him/her.

Such tweets usually come from immature lads possibly your grandchildren 'winding people up'.
Really? Why should it be the grandchild of anyone on here?

Google him why don't you
Google this why don't you
Please wise up to the ways of the media in this country
For starters find out who owns and controls our newspapers.

Any more 'suggestions'?

I think if you read some of the threads on here you could find all the information you need discussed at length and with helpful links.

Oh, and sorry to be pedantic (usually I think it's rude to pick up on mistakes) but I think you'll find that the ex-Tory Party chairman's name is spelt Grant Shapps (aka Michael Green).

We need parliament to work for all of us. At the moment it works for an establishment elite (mainly conservative) and the labour party since Neil Kinnock, John Smith and Tony Blair is terrified of being associated with ideas of social change: politics is seen purely in terms of a self orientated political career rather than a vocation, part of something that is historical, bigger than all of us and something we should respect and teach respect for.

In the last election 17 million people didn't vote in the UK: changes to electoral registration (individual voter registration) mean that nearly 7 million more may not be able to vote.

My MP is Kenneth Clarke and he responded to 38 Degrees Campaign and emails he received from constituents by abstaining on the bombing. I like to think that he listened to his constituents!

He's a great constituency MP even if you don't agree with his politics. His party though -and the Labour party do bully, do use bullying to dissuade opposition: bullying via social media is used as a strategic tool that the leadership of the conservative party in the recent death of Elliott Johnson, distanced themselves from.

The bullying could even have been done by the people who believe bombing is right: it may not even be Labour Party activists because they want democratic freedom, Jeremy Corbyn gave a free vote remember and the people who joined the labour party and support him believe in wider democratic participation and accountability, better debate and discussion in parliament. It looks to me like they were achieving that and so they've been knobbled for it by agents provocateurs who want a more authoritarian line on what democracy is and should be.

Jeremy Corbyn was brave, has been brave:he's worked his socks off to bring in people who've been labelled an underclass and exploited at every level and then blamed for their vulnerability and labelled further. I'm talking about people who are on zero hours contracts, in precarious employment(s), caring, or carers who watch the increasing privatisation of services that should be social enterprises, these market issues are affecting all of us, however hard we've worked, however educated or well off we are, because we've let our governments sell off the assets that belong to all of us.

The bullying could even have been done by the people who believe bombing is right

Oh yes, of course, that'll be it...

Great post Soapsaneolive and I am so pleased Ken Clarke abstained, I like and admire the man .

I hesitate before posting this link but I found it an interesting read, but it is one man's opinion, the man in question is Nick Coen of The Guardian.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/05/jeremy-corbyn-new-politics-self-righteous-left-wallows-in-cruelty

Sorry, Nick Cohen.

Thanks for posting the link, jamjar.
I think Nick Cohen is spot on.

I read that earlier this morning too and, yes, it is a good article. Talk of fathers turning in graves makes me think my father would be doing so if he could watch the Labour Party goings on at the moment. Mind you, he did live through the Militant Tendency era so maybe he'd just sigh and think Here we go again!

thatbags, I am sure your father would have known the history of the labour party, the birth of the Labour Party , suppose he would have classed Keir Hardy a militant

Nick Cohen was a strong supporter of the Iraq war too

Anniebach So what if he was? Does that disqualify him from commenting on events 12 years later?
There you go again, attacking the man and not what he is saying.

No it doesn't disqualify him from saying what he did, did I say it did ? He is free to write what he wishes - as am I ?

I admire Nick Cohen for being brave enough to suggest that whilst JC insists he isn't racist, many of those he counts as 'friends' are certainly anti semitic. I'd missed this article, so thanks thatbags for the link and also to janeainsworth for your comments on Nick Cohen's support of the Iraq war.

What's the dig at thatbags' father? I don't get it.

You implied it ab as you well know.

What dig at thatbags father, she spoke of her father, I replied.

Cohen attacked those who opposed the Iraq war, he said those who opposed it were betraying the Iraq people, that he is now attacking those who opposed the bombing of Syria caused me to comment on his views in the Iraq war protestors

At the time of writing this the Cohen article is now showing, allowing comments, makes for interesting reading.

I've had a quick look at the comments JamJar1. I agree with some of the posts about Facebook 'friends' posting vitriol against anyone who voted tory and more recently against Labour MP's who voted with the government on the decision to bomb in Syria. I've been deleting some posts because they're so aggressive and hateful in their criticism of any Labour MP who voted to bomb Syria. As I've said previously, I'm a NO to bombing Syria but I am concerned about the way in which many so called pacifists or peace lovers feel able to let their own dogs of war loose on people who don't share their views.

Link to comments,
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/05/jeremy-corbyn-new-politics-self-righteous-left-wallows-in-cruelty#comments
Where there were green biro letters sent to editors now there is the opportunity to be read by thousands while keeping your anonymity, behind your keyboard.

On all sides of an argument I hasten to add.

Iam, do you know that all the verbal attacks were written by pacifists and peace lovers?

Corbyn says he is against abuse “from whatever quarter it comes” and does not want to purge the Labour party. Yet he never punishes the abusers and warns MPs who defied him on Syria that “there will be “no hiding place”, which sounds like an incitement to purge to them – and to me.

This.