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Boris Johnson

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obieone Wed 17-Feb-16 18:55:40

I cant decide whether I like him or not. I probably shouldnt.

I also cant decide if he is playing fair about the EU in or out decision.
Is everything to him just about himself and his career, and that is why he is fence sitting extraordinaire?

Ana Mon 22-Feb-16 22:22:12

I expect so, FarNorth.

durhamjen Mon 22-Feb-16 22:34:38

i1.wp.com/voxpoliticalonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/160222BorisIn.png

Boris's views two weeks ago.

durhamjen Mon 22-Feb-16 22:37:43

I actually wrote a full paragraph justifying my comment about Boris, but then took it off, because I thought it wasn't worth it, because Ana and roses are so predictable anyway.

Ana Mon 22-Feb-16 22:44:48

As are you, dj! grin

I still don't see why you think Boris on a bike is more 'laughable' than Corbyn on a bike - but then I don't understand why you keep excusing Corbyn for changing his views now he's the Labour Party leader.

SirKevin Mon 22-Feb-16 23:25:56

Dunno what to think about him!

POGS Mon 22-Feb-16 23:32:35

I thought his father Stanley gave a good interview on Sky today.

You can see how he allowed his children to develop their own thought pattern and whilst Stanley is voting to stay IN he totally accepted his children have a mind of their own and are adults who can decide for themselves.

Those who have spoken of knowing Boris Johnson through working alongside him during his time as a journalist totally put paid to those who think/judge him as being a Europhile ! He is known to be Eurosceptic . Just because you don't like the man or the party he belongs to at least check out his history .

I thought Cameron made a mistake today whilst giving his Statement to the House. He and the other MP's who tried to disparage him just made themselves look a tad infantile. Get's my bloody goat.

durhamjen Tue 23-Feb-16 00:11:32

article.wn.com/view/2016/02/22/Im_all_over_the_place_How_Boris_Johnson_changed_his_mind/#

Alan Johnson on Boris and the labour party's stance.

POGS, are you saying that the statement Boris made in the Telegraph wasn't true? Link at 22.34

durhamjen Tue 23-Feb-16 00:15:27

Very weird. Every time I try and put a link for the Alan Johnson interview, the Boris interview comes up.
It's on the same page if anyone wants to watch it.

POGS Tue 23-Feb-16 00:42:35

Why would I say that isn't true?

What relevance to you make between your link and my posts?

I have heard him say it won't be easy but that does not mean he doesn't think it the right thing to do, in his opinion. I believe I heard him say in the speech he gave outside his home yesterday much the same thing as your link.

POGS Tue 23-Feb-16 00:58:05

I think the Alan Johnson interview is with Krishnan Guru Murthy, yes?

Again I don't see the relevance other than it is a left wing politician with your views spouting the same message. Have I missed something? confused

thatbags Tue 23-Feb-16 07:07:51

I woke up thinking about the laughability or otherwise of people on bikes and concluded that it's not a thing in my life.

A friend of mine who does fortnight long cycling/camping holidays with her family on the islands and mainland of western Scotland says they, who wear ordinary clothes when cycling, sometimes get scornful looks from some lycra-clad cycling dudes. She just thinks their scornful looks show up their twattiness. I think she's right.

Anya Tue 23-Feb-16 07:34:19

grin

JessM Tue 23-Feb-16 08:21:15

The Labour Party is in favour of staying in the EU. This was made clear when I saw Corbyn speak on Saturday in Llandudno.
Rather a pity that the EU in/out debate looks like becoming a proxy for the Tory leadership battle. This battle could become so acrimonious that the party splits.
This is of course more interesting to the press at the moment than anything else. So you probably won't hear much mainstream coverage of the more united Labour party in the next few weeks.

Anniebach Tue 23-Feb-16 08:44:36

Cameron doing his usual well rehearsed ,pathetic , , juvenile comment and it suddenly makes him look a tad infantile ? He has done the very same for years , he is a tad infantile

obieone Tue 23-Feb-16 08:49:42

I wonder whether even if there is an In result, whether Boris will still end up being PM at some point.
He could come out of this looking and smelling of roses. He loves this sort of thing.

He does seem a bit of a ditherer though in general.

If he was that bad as London mayor, Londoners would be up in arms and they are not.

Is he like Trump? A tamer version.

Anniebach Tue 23-Feb-16 09:41:46

Boris will stand for party leader when Dave stands down, I think he will win it too, his plan has worked so far and we are seeing Dave's career dying just as we saw with thatcher, the tories do tend to stab their leaders in the back

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 23-Feb-16 09:49:42

Oh and the labour lot didn't with wot'sisface? (Ed - you know!)

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 23-Feb-16 09:50:27

Milliband!

Anniebach Tue 23-Feb-16 09:52:57

When did the Labour shadow cabinet stabbed Milliband in the back Jingle? He stood down after losing the election

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 23-Feb-16 09:54:37

Well, he looked pretty bloody miserable about it. grin

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 23-Feb-16 09:55:30

They all made out it was his fault. Kicking a man when he was down.

Anniebach Tue 23-Feb-16 10:02:27

I have never seen a party leader looking joyful on losing an election, remind me of just one .

Thatcher was PM when they turned on her , now they are doing the same to Dave . Perhaps you can recall a labour PM who was booted out of office by his own cabinet ?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 23-Feb-16 10:05:02

Oh face it! They're all the same! hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 23-Feb-16 10:07:25

They are not "turning on Dave". He allowed them a free hand to campaign for whichever side they feel is right.

POGS Tue 23-Feb-16 10:08:15

Re the point made over news coverage.

I agree the weakness of the British t.v news coverage such as the BBC and Sky and to a degree newsprint ( I can watch 24/7 t.v coverage but could not profess to knowing what every newspaper writes so a folly to make a statement on their coverage) are more interested in Boris Johnson and 'whether or not ' he is grandstanding and it is as futile an exercise as asking if Corbyn will still be Leader in 2020. Nobody knows, nobody particularly cares and it just shows a total lack of capability by the media to debate / impartially give news coverage of any interesting , informative news.

It is the same with anybody. If you dislike them you will be of the mind set he/she can do no right and feel free to give opinions, that's all they can ever be opinions, that try to disparage them . If you like somebody you will be more generous in your opinion, that's how human nature works. It's fine for forums such as GN which are just platforms for us all to put out two penneth in but ye Gods can't the media get to grips with facts and figures , produce information that relate to one of the biggest decisions we have to make for our future. angry