Justin Welby

Anniebach You are right on so many points. The general public in the main couldn't give a hoot what JW says, even if they know who he is. It's the news media that picks up on these things and if the right wing papers do not like what he says then the church should not be meddling in politics - ie. when he said that our offer to take 20,000 refugees by 2020, as "very slim" compared to Germany's extraordinary efforts. Conversely in this interview a very small part of what he said regarding immigration, out of context, was seized on by the press, to use no doubt to fit with their own agenda.

Anniebach you really do imply time and again you think the population of the UK are thick don't you.

Welby will either chime with our thoughts or not I suppose. You either get' what the man says or you don't. Without nasty, puerile comments what has he said that has caused such anxst? So far I only see the upset caused hinges on his using the word ' immigrant ' and daring to speak openly as the Leader of the christian faith Enlighten me as I only read short, sharp non debatable statements for the most part from some repeat posters.

Wouldn't think of any attempt to try to enlighten you POGS, if you believe the majority know who Welby is so be it

Lazigirl, it seems the majority are Christians and Welby is so well known, no matter that on this forum many were rather irritated when he said we should take more refugees .

I really don't think what he said caused the problem, it was the way the Mail, Express and Sun front paged it, without context ofcourse, that stirred the situation, encouraging some readers to believe he agrees with them, when in fact he doesn't......BUT he is a public figure and should be a bit more careful knowing how toxic the atmosphere is around immigration. He may now find he has acquired friends and supporters that he didn't bargain for

Hmmmm

“But we can’t pretend we’re not part of this issue. We’ve got to find ways of taking our share of the load.”

I think this is the most important sentence in his speech. It's a shame it wasn't picked up by the papers, as far as I have read.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/11/justin-welby-immigration-unwanted-friends-archbishop-canterbury

This is a much more sensible review of what he said.

Lazigirl, did you write the Guardian article?

Of course, you could always read my link of 10.40 yesterday to read what he actually said, and not just some journalist's interpretation of it.

I did, Ana. That's where I got the quote from about finding ways to take our share of the load.

Believe it or not, your link was to an article written by a journalist. It wasn't a speech. It was a journalist's interpretation of an interview, not just a QA session.

Obviously you did not think that my quotation was the most important sentence, but I did. The man who wrote the Guardian article obviously interpreted it differently to the ones who wrote about it in the Sun and the Express.
All I am showing is that there is another way to look at it, the Guardian way.

theconversation.com/is-it-really-not-racist-to-oppose-immigration-56173

I corrected my first statement to say that it was an interview, not a speech, durhamjen (if you bothered to read that far).

I'm not sure why you're assuming that no one on this thread apart from Lazigirl read the Guardian article before you posted a link to it. I certainly had, which is why I knew where that 'friends and supporters he didn't bargain for' came from.

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2016/03/16/the-calais-jungle-now-resembles-a-war-zone

Caroline Lucas has been to Calais. This is her report on what she found at Calais and Dunkirk.
These are the sort of immigrants we should be allowing into the UK.
Anyone know how many have been allowed in this year?

Durhamjen. Do you think that your the only one who reads newspapers or watches the news. This is old news. I thought you were posting something we didn't know about.

It may not be todays news but it cannot be ignored , I fear we have become a ' oh not more on those people ' readers,viewers, listeners .

Each time I see these people on the news I am more and more troubled by our reaction here in Europe to them. We rant about the war zone these children live in, we condemn ISIS , we condemn the boat owners who transport them across seas and I ask - are we so different when we are so concerned with the effect on our schools, hospitals etc we are willing to let them die in vermin infected tents , I think not

It's OK for you two to ignore the thread about Muslim Councillors though?

Gosh, do you make notes of who posts on which threads Ana, you must do, creepy, makes one feel one is being stalked

Ana, I have just posted on the Germany thread , sorry cannot tell you all the threads I haven't posted on, I just pop on here for a quick break from transcribing

Hardly, ab - the Muslim Women Councillors thread is completely devoid of left-wing input apart from whitewave's contribution. One can hardly 'stalk' a non-existent element...

9:30am - 11:00am
Westminster Hall debate
UNHCR and pathways for admission of Syrian refugees

Such old news that there was a Westminster Hall debate on it today, which was mentioned in Caroline Lucas's article, if you had bothered to read it, Petra.
I'm surprised you even bothered to respond. Of course, you will always take the opportunity to criticise me, rather than the government which causes these problems in the first place.

And the muslim ladies dj? any thoughts about them?!!

Has the Arch Bishop made comments on Muslim women? I thought he spoke of immigrants and racism

I don't think he has, but he certainly should do. Maybe he's waiting to see what JC has to say about it?!! I think he's got a long wait there and may have to jump the gun!! I might pen a letter in that direction and see what happens! Will keep you posted if you're interested.

Having just read it, think it was an entirely sensible view by Justin Welby,
anniebach your comments make me think of the old saying 'He/she could start an arguement in an empty room.' There is nothing at all to dislike in his interview.

Three Syrian boys have arrived in the UK to join their families. They were accompanied by two MPs.

secure.avaaz.org/en/refugees_welcome_uk/?bkHcnjb&v=74287&cl=9700138909

A link to the story, and to welcome them if you want to.