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Newsnight/Labour Muslim Women Councillors

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POGS Sat 12-Mar-16 13:00:49

News night was interesting last night.

It was following on from previous reports of victimisation within the Labour Party against Muslim women councillors, mostly by other Labour Muslim Councillors. Even threats such as asking one woman if she wanted her child to get to the age of 6. It is disgraceful and I do not understand why/how this has been permitted over a period time to fester. The only reason I can think of is fear of being called racist yet how could it be remotely racist when the problem seems to be entirely a Muslim issue.

' The Muslim Women's Network UK ' has written to Jeremy Corbin claiming women have been stopped from becoming councillors by Muslim men in the Labour Party. They demand an inquiry into the 'systemic mysogyny displayed by significant numbers of Muslim male local councillors".

We know there is gender segregation at some meetings but alongside the threatening behaviour which has been reported by some brave women how can this be accepted in the UK. This is a cultural issue but it should be stopped in the UK, there is no place for it, full stop.

Likewise I thought Labour MP Gavin Shuker was gutsy to admit there was a problem and called for his party to act. If this behaviour happened in any party I would be saying exactly the same thing but this does appear to be restricted to Labour. I am interested to know if anybody can point me in the direction of any 'known' such activity within the other parties as this is beyond bad behaviour it is threatening behaviour.

Jane10 Sat 12-Mar-16 13:26:51

A nasty development. I'm glad it has been highlighted and hope that it is stamped out!

tanith Sat 12-Mar-16 13:27:56

I couldn't quite believing what I was seeing, it should be investigated and a stop put to it . The Labour Party should be ashamed if this is really allowed to go on, will be interesting to see if 'other' parties have the same issues I don't see why it would be confined to one party.

petra Sat 12-Mar-16 13:52:26

"This is a cultural issue but it should be stopped in the uk, there is no place for it, full stop"
I'm afraid it's too late. As in so many 'cultural' issues.
You only have to look at the way the Labour Party have 'got in bed with' leaders of Muslim communities. These are the Muslim MEN who go and tell the community how to vote. They have too bigger hold now, I'm afraid.

tanith Sat 12-Mar-16 13:55:31

petra I'm not sure I know what you mean when you say that the Labour Party 'have got in bed' with leaders of Muslim communities? Could you enlighten me please.

petra Sat 12-Mar-16 14:02:33

Tanith. Labour leaders supporting Muslim communities, pouring money into Muslim communities, turning a blind eye to certain things going on in Muslim communities, all for votes.

tanith Sat 12-Mar-16 14:12:17

Well if its going on as you seem to believe then it too should be investigated along with anything else untoward that is going on.

petra Sat 12-Mar-16 14:26:08

tanith. This has been going on for years. It's called Politics.

nigglynellie Sat 12-Mar-16 14:35:19

It should! but something tells me it won't be, particularly after listening to the young man being interviewed. To be honest, can you ever imagine, let alone witness ANY political leaders, never mind ineffectual J.C tackling this problem?!! It'll will be swept back under the carpet where it came from before you can say 'racist'!!

petra Sat 12-Mar-16 14:55:56

Does anyone remember Ed Milliband stating that when (lol) labour came to power he would make islamaphobia an 'aggravated crime'
That was until someone whispered in his ear that it could be a vote looser, not that he needed one.

nigglynellie Sat 12-Mar-16 15:22:53

I do! and of course it would have been and still will be if anyone pushes it, that's why nothing will alter! A bit of huff and puff maybe, but that'll be it! Hypocrisy on all fronts rules ok, always has and probably always will!

Jane10 Sat 12-Mar-16 15:56:29

Is there anything we can do to support these women? I don't want to just wash my hands or say that ship has sailed and other such metaphors. Its our country and women have rights here. People who think otherwise are perfectly entitled to go to countries where they don't.

rosesarered Sat 12-Mar-16 16:27:00

Now that it has been brought to the attention of Corbyn ( if he didn't already know about it) then it is up to him as leader to do something about it.It needs an investigation and some 'body' not containing any Muslim men, that women councillors can go to to report this behaviour.Some 'body' that has teeth mind you, not a gummy appeasing lot.

petra Sat 12-Mar-16 16:52:33

Jane10. I'm going to have a look and see what's about.

POGS Sat 12-Mar-16 17:00:11

The Muslim Women's Network.

obieone Sun 13-Mar-16 08:56:28

I dont agree that it is too late as regards cultural issues. Laws and life change all the time.

nigglynellie Sun 13-Mar-16 10:45:02

I think it would be an uphill battle for all concerned, not least for the women who would on the receiving end of this prejudice 24/7. They would need to be extremely strong minded and resilient. Imo there are no senior politicians of any party who would have the stomach for that sort of battle, so these ladies would be very much on their own except for individual support from well wishers. 'This is England and we don't allow this sort of discrimination, Its the law!!!!' Don't we?! It would appear that we do, hypocrites that we are!!!!!

POGS Mon 14-Mar-16 11:35:14

I am not surprised by the lack of condemnation or defence on this subject.

You cannot defend the indefensible principle applies I guess.

Back to Boris and his hair.

nigglynellie Mon 14-Mar-16 15:15:55

It would be interesting to hear what our left wing brethren on this forum have to say on this subject. Maybe they will spring to these ladies defense or maybe they approve of a male dominated society, illegal in this country of course, that seems to be thriving in certain areas!!! I appreciate need for protecting votes, but surely not at the expense of female emancipation?!!!

petra Mon 14-Mar-16 15:35:12

They are as noticeable by their absence as they were on the Cologne sex attacks thread. I could have predicted at the beginning who wouldn't speak up.

obieone Mon 14-Mar-16 15:46:46

So they are. I hadn't noticed that.
I think that is what is standing out for me most about the posters on the left wing on this forum. The lack of balance. When two ideals clash, they dont know which to choose.
Or do they just go along with the leader?

nigglynellie Mon 14-Mar-16 16:27:41

Yes that's probably it! Any queries about this glaringly obvious sexist behaviour, is just answered with how many women labour have in Parliament!! (congratulations all round!!) Which is is hardly relevant, and not what is at issue here!! Not sure that anyone is going to get anywhere with this particular thorny anomoly, any time soon!!

nigglynellie Mon 14-Mar-16 17:18:58

Oh come on dj and annibach, tell us how you feel, surely Guardian has a link for us to read?!

Ana Mon 14-Mar-16 17:25:43

They must be still waiting for Jeremy Corbyn to 'look at the letter sent by MWNUK and respond in due course.'

This was in a Guardian article dated 7th February, so he's had a good few weeks...

nigglynellie Mon 14-Mar-16 17:36:53

Bit like the Chilcott report, so quite a few years to go before we get the official version!!!!!!!!