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Should we be worried about right-wing populism?

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whitewave Tue 24-May-16 10:17:41

Following on from the Trump thread.

It seems that right wing populism is growing with its anti-immigration stance, and its racist and fascist undertones.

The evidence I suggest is the following.
Trump in America
50% of Austria voting for a fascist president
Polands "Law and Order" party.
France Marine le Pen
UKs UKIP
Other European countries have growing right wing parties.
Eastern Europe has seen the rise of authoritarian nationalism, fascism and anti- minority populism.
They all share the same model as what we see in Russia, Putins government can be described as authoritarian, and socially conservative nationalism.

Some of our parents generation lost their lives fighting this evil. We can't let it slip back into our lives.

granjura Mon 20-Jun-16 13:32:53

Back to the title of thread, and the simple answer is

YES

If remain vote is very close, and even if not, I shudder to think how some in the EDL and Britain First will react and what violence might ensue.

Ana Mon 20-Jun-16 13:36:44

Why? confused

granjura Mon 20-Jun-16 17:45:00

oh Ana!?!

Ana Mon 20-Jun-16 18:02:15

'Oh Ana' what? Do you really think there's going to be a massive uprising of the EDL and Britain First and we're all going to be in fear of our lives? Get real...

TriciaF Mon 20-Jun-16 18:21:41

Ditto.
I would say that the phlegmatic would outnumber the emotional.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 18:24:46

We do not need many emotional.

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 18:26:01

Maybe a week ago the thought of a politician being murdered would have been ridiculous sad.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 18:33:38

I see people are saying that the 77 year old who was also stabbed trying to protect Jo is out of hospital now. It's been said he should be given a George medal for bravery.

whitewave Mon 20-Jun-16 18:42:56

Poor old boy I bet he is shaken

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 18:49:52

I'm sure I've heard that he used to work down the mines and had rescued people, but I need to verify that. A true hero. Given the extent of his injuries, very lucky to be alive.

obieone Mon 20-Jun-16 19:01:06

Agree with Ana.
Fear/scare tactic, when the opposite is likely to happen.

Tegan Mon 20-Jun-16 19:04:37

There is an underlying problem whatever happens on Thursday I fear. It's just that [imo] certain members of society will feel empowered by a Brexit win and I'm not sure how they will use that power.

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 19:05:18

Obieone agrees with Ana. Ana agrees with obieone. Practical will be along in a minute to agree with both of you.

I sincerely hope we do not have to find out.

Just seen that Farage has been in York. Ugh!

durhamjen Mon 20-Jun-16 19:09:14

And he's still using that poster, which is known to be a lie.

granjura Mon 20-Jun-16 19:13:27

To be honest Tegan- I am more concerned about those who will feel 'disempowered', as they are the ones who could turn nasty and cause big trouble.

Ana, I so hope this won't happen- but I shudder to think of 'what if'. After the killing of Jo Cox, no wonder many are concerned- especially if the vote is very close.

Ana Mon 20-Jun-16 19:24:03

I don't remember ever saying I agree with obieone, durhjamjen, but even if I have it will never be comparable to the number of times Annie agrees with you! grin

granjura Mon 20-Jun-16 19:32:53

You are not suggesting there are 'cliques' on GN, surely not ;) !

petra Mon 20-Jun-16 19:37:44

Re the leave campaign poster. I must be different to a lot of people ( not on here) I didn't see black/ brown faces, not my words, the media. I suppose because I've always lived in multicultural towns. All I saw was numbers, and that has always been my issue with immigration.

obieone Mon 20-Jun-16 20:01:34

Most people, especailly on gransnet, know it is about numbers. They just like to pretend otherwise.

obieone Mon 20-Jun-16 20:02:57

At least their pretending can end on friday. Roll on friday.

daphnedill Tue 21-Jun-16 01:04:36

Maybe worth reading if you've got a spare ten minutes:

exposingbf.wordpress.com/2016/06/20/jo-cox-paul-golding-and-britain-firsts-indelible-shame/

Jo Cox was working on a document about them, which was due to be published. I hope it is still published, although there might be a block on it, if it's being used in evidence during her murder trial.

daphnedill Tue 21-Jun-16 01:06:06

@Ana

I don't think we're ALL going to be in fear of our lives, but I think some people have a justifiable reason to fear. They already do.

durhamjen Tue 21-Jun-16 19:19:57

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varian Fri 24-Jun-16 22:41:33

I am still in shock (although I almost expected this awful result)

YES we should be very worried about right wing populism - which if cleverly applied gets support from traditional labour voters.

Unfortunately you can fool quite a lot of the people quite a lot of the time.

You channel legitimate grievances (which should be directed to our UK government) against the EU and -bingo- if you repeat the same meaningless slogan "take back control" enough times quite a lot of people will believe you.

In the Wembley debate the Outers repeated that slogan no less than 117 times. In answer to every question they said "take back control" because they had no proper answers to the questions.

This is a very sad day for Britain, for Europe and for the world.

thatbags Sat 25-Jun-16 06:59:59

I'm still asking myself why right-wing populism has risen and is rising at the moment. I think it might be a backlash to the left-wing populism that in recent decades has been dominant.