UK? No

Just a thought, at the time nigglynellie spoke of, the UK was at war with Germany and each was inflicting vicious damage on the other.
At the time Anniebach mentioned, England and Wales were supposed to be friendly partners within the UK.

I spoke of a time when with the exception of one Tory MP who abstained , the MP's in Wales voted against flooding a valley to provide Liverpool with water , no planning permission was required from the various depts in Wales, a village and farms were destroyed as was the entire valley

This was 1965 not when the Normans invaded or the Tudors were on the English throne .

Liverpool apologised in the nineties, - so sorry we stamped over you, ignored your pleas to save a community , devasted the elderly in the valley who couldn't be buried in their family plots, you did have the choice to dig up your dead though. What England want's England gets , ask the Irish and the Scots .

So imho- and I am sure some here will disagree, France and Italy and others should have one team, and so should the British (not the English, quite rightly so).

1965 is more than fifty years ago. It happened. time to get over it, maybe? I think most people will have by now.

And of course, what has Liverpool and the Mersey ever done for North Wales? I know a lot of Joneses (have some in the family and among close friends); all of them come from Liverpool or Cheshire. Funny that.

Then let's forget all that happened over cufty years ago. I cannot forget it, I still remember holding the hand if an elderly lady who sobbed because she wanted to be interred with her husband and two children but has been told to dig them up.

Why on earth ask what has Liverpool done for Wales, silky question

No way a British team, the Olympics are bad enough with team GB,

ab, What on earth can anybody do about that now?! What's done is done, so why still the bitterness and resentment sixty years along the line? Throughout history all over the world umpteen people and communities have suffered at the hands of others and managed to put it behind them. Most of continental Europe seem to be able to rub along together despite the horrors of the fairly recent past. In Japan, Vietnam and other countries, nations and people that with good reason hated each other, can now meet up in a spirit of reconciliation. Both my mother, and stepfather who spent four years as a POW in the far east and all the horrors that entailed, were very much of this view, which I wholly endorse. None of this was the fault of the present generation or governments. Nothing can alter the past, but attitudes can certainly alter the future for better or worse.

Niggly, you are hardly the person to advise others considering the number of times you bring up WW2 ,

This thread was on equality within the UK not a war which took place seventy years ago,

Perhaps chill out or go on a 'desensitising' course?

Not about a valley flooded fifty+ years ago to get water to a city (full of Welsh people as well as Irish and English) that needed it either.

I agree nothing can alter the past, but lessons can and should be learned . There was no equality in the UK fifty years ago and little has changed as most posts on this thread show . We even have a post claiming the national news is the news of England

That was 51 years ago.

I'm sure the ordinary people of Liverpool had little say in the matter - things are different now. You sound very bitter AB

What about all the people whose houses/villages were demolished to widen motorways, expand airports, and in the future to make way for HS2 etc?

I hope they didn't/don't stay bitter for 50 years.

BBC has regional variations, BBC Wales and BBC Scotland. So can't see why we shouldn't have one channel with English info
www.bbc.co.uk/wales

trisher, BBC has one regional for Scotland/NI Ireland /Wales. At least twelve for England ,

Riverwalk, you can twist as much as you choose , I am speaking of equality in the UK in 2016 , it does not exist

It's interesting to note that, when we criticise tribalism in the Middle East, it is alive and well in the UK.

Just a question anniebach - I should remember the answer from the many EU threads, but I cannot, sorry.

Are you pro or anti staying in the EU? If we all carried on with our hatred and resentment of past misdeeds, including killing of our loved ones, we would never have joined the EU let alone some campaigning to stay in with Germany at the forefront and Italy another member. There would be no hope for the future of the EU if that were the case.

I think DH's family were migrants from Wales to the Liverpool area and back again too. Mine were wanderers up and down the Borders too. Both anglicized Welsh surnames and many wandered further afield around the world but none seem resentful of the English.

Then again, the Queen is still referred to as "the Queen of England", no one gets too excited about that.

Population of Wales approx 3 mill. Population of England approx 53 mill so per head that is actually discriminatory against the English. If we were equal we would have at least 16 or 17.

I've only used WW2 to illustrate that past resentments and hatreds can be overcome. Others have used other examples. You are the one with continuing resentments over things that happened sixty years ago when, as someone pointed out, the people of Liverpool had little say if any in the matter of the reservoir. Liverpool has apologised! What else can they do?, what else do you want them to do?! As for the BBC?! I daresay England does have more regional programmes. Are you saying that Wales should have twelve too?!! Maybe there is no demand for more than one, after all England is a lot bigger than the other three, or is that another resentment?!

Not yet Hollycat!!

Jalima , I am for staying in the EU. Hatred is alien to me, never experienced it so cannot comment on it sorry

Well ab, that's as maybe, but you certainly sound very resentful and bitter, which at times sounds like a border line case.

"Hatred is alien to me" Yeah right but it does not preclude you from having this interminable whine about how the Welsh have suffered at the hands of the English. Try googling some of the atrocities the Greeks, among others, suffered at the hands of the Germans during World War 2 and the paltry reparations they received and it might put the Welsh grievances into perspective. We have to move on and stop blaming whole nations for the bad behaviour of a few.

My goodness! It's so easy to see why minorities in the UK have grievances and feel they're marginalised.

The Welsh have their own culture and language, of which they are rightfully proud. I think anniebach has a point, as this announcement was on the BBC. Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland aren't just 'other' countries.