The EU - we are on the home straight folks!

I think your post of 11.17am is designed to mislead. I think a number of your posts are like that.
And as I also now discover[see the new thread in news and politics that I started] others are also posting to mislead too.

What kind of EU immigrant is the wrong kind obelone?

I am not falling for traps that some posters set, either.

good for you

don't blame you obieone

JessM I agree with you. If the Tory government had not been voted in we wouldn't be in this position. I don't know about anyone else but I don't know enough about the EU to make such a big decision. We have both sides coming out with facts and figures that contradict each other. We vote in a government to make these decisions for us and they have access to a lot more information than us. I think it is a cop out asking us the public to make the decision - whichever way it goes, they, the government, can turn round when things don't happen as they have said, that It isn't their fault - it is ours. They won't be held accountable!

Obieone, I resent the fact that you keep accusing me of misleading. I do not do that. I asked a perfectly straightforward question.
You are the one who said that people did not mean that sort of migrant. Please stop making statements like that if you are not prepared to justify your meaning.

"Why do people think that it will be horrendous trading out of the EU?

The top 4 or top 6 wealthiest countries are not European. And surprisingly few European countries make the top 20. 4 or 5."

This is what YOU said at 10.41, obieone. Was that meant to mislead?

I have already said sorry for my error.
It wouldnt have made sense if I had done it to mislead as it makes my point worse not better! It wouldnt have conveyed what I wanted it to convey.

You never try and mislead durhamjen? You never for example pick an example of something and not say that there are several sources that say the opposite to your point?

Or you never say use the word Europe instead of the word EU to try and make something look like something different

etc etc

Oblieone, in various places I have now see leavers say that people putting the remain argument are in some cases "contentious" and in some "misleading". Each time I have seen it all it means is "I don't like people not sharing my view".

So others have said about the misleading too? Interesting.

Misleading to me means nothing of the sort you have written.

Belittling misleading or/and even further misleading is so not a good idea.

No obieone - only you. Others have taken the excuse of "contentious" for no liking someone disagreeing with them.

What does misleading mean to you, obieone?

Stephen Kinnock on 130 at the moment.
The only people who will be happy if the EU unravels will be Putin and Farage.
I bet Farage is happy about that!

Will he get a good pension if he can no longer be an MEP?

Richard Murphy's reasons for voting remain.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/WhyRemain.pdf

Looks very impressive on a mindmap.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Documents/Why.png

dj, I refuse to play word games.

Go away and play something else then, if you cannot even say what you mean by misleading. You accuse me of doing it, then say that you do not mean the same as others do by it.
What are you playing at, if not word games?
Someone else used to do that all the time, called soontobe.

I do not know if Farage needs it, Welshwife.
He will probably stand as an MP again. Is there such a thing as a safe Ukip seat?

For those of you who think we do not do enough about immigration, I found this very disturbing.

ukhumanrightsblog.com/2016/06/13/families-separated-for-immigration-purposes/#more-29890

He may not need itDJ but I doubt he would turn it down if it were offered!

Misleading to me means nothing of the sort you have written.

If that is the bit that you are querying, I was replying to Gracesgran's post.

For the definition of the word mislead, look in the dictionary.

obieone take no notice, some people on here are acting like school girl bullies. They do not want to debate with anyone who does not share their views on the EU and talk down to them.

I have reported jendurham's post of 12.18.16 for obvious reasons.

Obieone, I know the meaning of the word misleading. You are the one who said that you mean something different. You are the one who is accusing others of being misleading.

What does misleading mean to you, obieone?

Firecracker, why is asking for clarification bullying? I want to debate with obieone, but not if she is accusing me of being misleading. She is the one who is not willing to debate, not me.

How anyone can bring a Kinnock in as a plus I'll never know.