Orlando Shootings

Obviously I understand the ease of obtaining weapons in the USA but my problem is this could happen in practically any country, with or without the ease of purchasing weapons. I think we would be terrified to know how easy it is to obtain weapons here if there is the will. It would be naive not to think there are stashes throughout the UK waiting to do harm.

You hit the nail on the head Terribull alongside the known wide use of narcotics that are found during the search in their homes.

It was said on the Today prog this morning that the National Rifle Association has a huge sway with the republicans.

there was a clause in US gun laws forbidding automatic weapons But it expired.

Obama said this was a terror crime and a hate crime.

BBC news this morning stated that it is suspected that he did have links with Isis. If this is a fact then I do hope the Islamic leaders of the world speak up and public condemn his actions, although something tells me that they will not.

No wonder Donald Trumps campaign is doing so well.

thatbags, absolutely agree another senseless vengeful act at the hands of what may well be a lone wolf who has mental health issues. Frankly all those engage in extremist jihadist attacks on innocent people are so brainwashed that they become psychotic. It's as you say not the religion per se but the fundamentalist strain of it that is the problem.

I think extremist islamism is the problem. It is jihadist ideology that drove this attack as it did in the Boston bombing. While I agree that US gun laws are bonkers, it was a pressure cooker that was used as a weapon in the Boston attack, not guns. Should pressure cookers be banned as well? No, the common factor in these attacks is intolerant jihadist ideology. It is not islamophobic to say that.

See photo from Twitter below that expresses very well that it is the effect of certain beliefs that cause people to murder those they see as infidels. This is not a criticism of Muslims but of a certain belief that I'm pretty sure most Muslims don't have.

Guns are a way of life in America, and so it seems to me that it is impossible to control their use. It is not illegal to carry one so who is going to know whether the carrier is innocently going his/her own way, or intending to carry out a horrible violent act? Surely Obama, whether people like him or not, should be heard and listened to, and Trump should realise that hatred breeds hatred. Our thoughts should be with the people who have lost loved ones, and those who are suffering the trauma of yet another what seems like senseless massacre of people.

I read this morning that the perpetrator has mental health problems, a diagnosis of bipolar and a history of domestic abuse (towards his ex wife). He was known to the FBI, had been interviewed by them more than once about possible links to terrorists. Despite this history, he was able to walk into gun stores and buy guns/assault rifles.

Donald Trump is of course attempting to make political headway by suggesting this attack is the result of Islamic extremism. Yes, the man was a Muslim but that's hardly the key issue in this dreadful mass murder is it. Obama has again made calm, sensible comments about the need to "do something" about US gun laws.

To be honest I was very naive how easy it is to buy weapons throughout Europe and lax gun laws.

Even DH who is a total Gun nut admits that there is no reason for a civilian to have an assault rifle. He also says there is no way they will ever be able to get rid of all the ones that must be circulating in the US, which I'm afraid is probably true.

Yet they still want the freedom to walk into a store and buy guns

Poor people, there about fifty in hospital too , some seriously wounded

The World is a very dangerous place for everyone that's for sure. Another terrible tragedy indeed.