We should think of Jo at the ballot box

The Kinnock family are distraught at her death - if you saw Neil Kinnock on TV yesterday you would have seen how visibly upset he was. I have not seen the piece Stephen wrote but maybe it was not put in the best prose. I can understand the sentiment behind what he has said - this young woman and mother was murdered for her beliefs - Could he have been suggesting that maybe we should think why she was murdered when we come to vote? It does look as if it was connected to extremism.
As it happens I had a postal vote and sent it back almost three weeks ago and so it can make no difference to how I vote. I can understand why you feel as you do but I can see why he has said it.

No, I don't think so. Her death brought a pause in the awful 'discussions' which were taking place over the referendum. Time for everyone to take a breath, I think perhaps she would have been pleased about that, because it gave everyone time to stop and think about the values we have. For lovely Jo, the debate become too personal, and she lost her life because she cared; the world is a sadder place for that. Voting one way or the other will not alter the fact.

I'm not surprised. I expect there to be a lot more comments like that one.
It won't change the way I vote, nothing will.

I voted a few weeks ago too, since the murder if Jo Cox I have had the thought - thank god I didn't vote with Brexit , I would have to accept I was of the same mindset as the Britain First movement .

Stephen is grieving the loss of a dear friend , his parents are devasted . I think it his way of trying to find something positive from her death, if Brexit win she died for nothing, if they lose her fight was not in vain

No, you are most definately NOT wrong to find that distasteful. Jo Cox was doubtless a lovely woman, who had worked in some of the most dangerous areas of the world. It is sad, and ironic, that she should end her life, prematurely, in a small Yorkshire town on her own doorstep.

She was killed by a mentally-ill man, with, it would appear, connections to an extreme right wing facist group. No such group is being represented at the ballot box next week. Thank goodness.

I agree that it must not change the way we vote and as PRINTMISS has said we we should consider what is best for everyone and not just for ourselves. We must not be swayed by others opinions, personalities who we like or dislike should not sway us in our decision.
It would seem that Jo Cox was a very principled young woman who lived what she believed for others as well as herself . Sadly she died because someone else didn't respect those beliefs as it would seem they weren't his own.

Exactly, and as others point out, this has nothing to do with our vote next week.There will always be some wanting to push their own agenda.I don't think that anybody will be swayed by comments of Kinnock or Bob Geldof for that matter, or anybody else.

Anniebach I'm voting to leave. But I can assure you that these people are as far removed from my life as the man in the moon. I would go as far to say that applies to 99% of leave voters. Call me naive if you want, but that is what I believe.

I find your remark distasteful in the extreme Anniebach

You are effectively saying that I am of the same mind set as this disgusting group. Well I assure you I am not. But I'm quite prepared to say that I find those on GN who are using this death as a way of hitting out at those who might wish to vote leave, beyond low.

I am disgusted by many of the posts I have read on this forum. I am equally disgusted by the mindset behind them and wonder how low some people can sink.

I won't be on GN for the rest of the day as I don't really want to contribute to site where reasoned political debate is stiffled by a group of 'heavies'. Rant and rave all you want I won't be here to read it.

And if GNHQ choose to delete this post because it infringes their 'guidelines' then do be it, but at least I've had the chance to say what I think.

The beliefs of Britain First is at the heart of why the country will vote with or against

Rubbish annie and you know it!

I agree , the appeal from Stephen Kinnock was distasteful. Taking it one step further I suggest that as a politician he knew exactly what he was doing.

I agree with all that Anya has just written, and I will be off this thread too.Disgusting remarks by you annie.

You always say what you think Anya why on earth should this post be treated differently ? Does it trouble you perhaps!

I cannot apologise to those who have taken offence. I am sorry thry are troubled but I am only expressing my opinions , my views on Brexit supporters are no different to the views her who accused all members of the Labour Party of being anti Semitic , do I am just following your way if thinking , birds if a feather etc

I too don't like the inference that if I should choose to vote one way that makes me of the same mindset of an extremist group - it would not. I have no allegiances to any political group and will vote for what I personally think is right. Please let's not turn this poor woman's murder into political infighting.

I wouldn't call it distasteful. I just don't agree that thinking about Jo Cox is relevant. There are good people and bad people on both sides. Agreeing with Jo Cox's views does not make you a good person; neither does disagreeing with them. Nor does either agreeing or disagreeing make anyone a bad person.

So I think I'd call it a bit silly rather than distasteful. But, we can all be a bit silly when in the grip of deep emotion. So... shrug and ignore.

Oh yeah, and people are allowed to say things that others think distasteful anyway. More shrugs.

If he really thinks people who don't think like Jo on the EU are not as nice people as those who do, even when he is not suffering grief, then he's a twit in that regard.

Besides which, one can agree with her about refugees and still vote for Brexit.

thatbags nailed it. It's just silly.

I was accused of being anti semetic because if comments made by two politicians , surely the same can now be said of Brexit supporters ? No difference

" if Brexit win she died for nothing" - I cannot understand that statement at all. She has died for nothing - full stop. She has died because a misguided/probably mentally ill man has committed an atrocity.

It has nothing whatesoever to do with how people might vote and Stephen Kinnock is out of order. If he is remotely suggesting that those who favour Brexit are fascists then he is trying to sway the vote for the wrong reasons. There are many people in favour of LEAVE who have not made that decision on the basis of the immigration issue, but because of many other things.

The idea that those in favour of LEAVE have some problem with their fellow Europeans and are little Englanders is a distorted simplification.

I guess he can be forgiven as he is grieving for a friend; but his comments are out of order and unacceptable.

On Facebook a friend of a friend was being applauded for saying that those planning to vote out should share some blame for Jo Cox's death, as they have contributed to the mindset that brought it about.

Utter nonsense, as is this suggestion.

If Stephen Kinnock thinks that he can emotionall blackmail the British public, it could work against the remain voters. The British public will see right through it.

Anya,you may not be reading this,but thank you for putting my thoughts into words,I wouldn't have been able to do it so cleverly.