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Fox cubs

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whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 08:07:05

Anyone who can take an infant species from its mother and give it another species to tear to pieces is not human.

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 09:25:09

cubbing is by far the worst and most horrific part of Fox Hunting. And don't tell me it doesn't still happen- it does.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 09:27:56

Just on the news. A film was made of live babies being carried into kennels, the dead babies being thrown into dustbins. Babies bodies were rescued and everything taken to the police.

Jane10 Thu 23-Jun-16 09:28:40

Looking out of the window yesterday evening I suddenly saw a fox. I was just so happy to see this wild animal trotting by obviously on a mission. There are no hens nearby, our bins are all secure. This fox is absolutely no danger to anything. Long may s/he roam!

rosesarered Thu 23-Jun-16 09:31:39

Certainly a very horrible act and I hope they will be prosecuted.sad

Anniebach Thu 23-Jun-16 09:46:03

Police know it's going on, nothing is done, Countryside Alliance has said they are not involved , they would wouldn't they . Clubbing is horrific , I have witnessed it .

This government has four more years to keep it's promise to the C Alliance and hold another vote , fix hunting will be legal again. It hasn't stopped, police do not prosecute, RSPCA have said they are not going to include it in their private prosecutions

Devorgilla Thu 23-Jun-16 09:48:56

Horrendous. I was horrified to see this on the news.

Anniebach Thu 23-Jun-16 09:52:21

The whole so called sport is vile, please fight against it, please

Indinana Thu 23-Jun-16 10:09:46

Despicable people. I have to believe in karma for these so called 'humans'.

Nonnie1 Thu 23-Jun-16 10:13:55

I can't even allow myself to think about this

Anniebach Thu 23-Jun-16 10:25:42

Please think about it, if it goes back to parliment it could be made legal again. I swear it is horrific, the terror of the fox, the screaming of the Cubs, the excitement on the faces of the hunters as they close in on their prey, the blooding of youngsters on their first kill. It is barbaric , sick . The hounds live short lives, destroyed by about age six, Not possible to give them a home , they have spent their short lives in packs , they don't get vetinary care, cheaper to shoot them and breed more.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 10:35:13

These babies weren't even hunted in the traditional cubbing sense. They were too tiny. No they were given to the hounds to tear up.

Love the fact that these despicable people say we should have no say because we don't understand the country - idiots

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 12:45:20

Dogs that won't hunt are also traditionally fed to the pack.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 12:52:52

Blimey it gets worse

breeze Thu 23-Jun-16 15:03:48

Disgusting and evil. And don't get me started on badger culling. Throw the perps into a lion enclosure, see how it feels. Anyone who does this, dog fighting, cock fighting, chasing a fox until it's exhausted then watch while it's torn to pieces should be locked up or worse. So I don't understand the country eh! Foxes numbers need to be kept down do they. I don't need to understand the country to know it's an evil and cruel way to keep numbers down. Human bloody decency, surely! you know it's wrong to be so cruel to a creature. If they truly do need to be kept down, humanely? How would they like it if they were hunted to exhaustion, then that awful moment, that awful, awful moment, when you realise you've lost and you scream in terror and pain as you are torn to shreds! Stop it!! I live in fear of one of my dogs being stolen and used for dog bait. They are so sweet natured and lovely. The thought of them being ripped apart while people whoop and clap makes me sick to my stomach.

breeze Thu 23-Jun-16 15:20:55

Oh, oh! and, when interviewed, do you know what they say??? They say, 'Well this is better than humane destruction, because, wait for it, the fox has a chance'!!!! Really. So that makes it o.k. then does it. And what about the little cubs? Did they have a chance? And what about the old ones who won't have a chance. And how would you feel if you were getting on a bit and someone chased you down the road with a hatchet! 'Ooh, this is much nicer than dying quietly in a hospital bed'. Sorry. I've gone all angry. I hate cruelty to children, the elderly, the vulnerable and animals. I am sometimes ashamed to be a human being when I see how my species sometimes acts. Just climbing off my box. Bit exhausted!

Jane10 Thu 23-Jun-16 15:47:38

So sickening. sad and angry

granjura Thu 23-Jun-16 16:16:01

The video also highlighted again the reality of 'canned' fox hunting. I worked for many years as a vounteer with a wildlife hospital and badger group- with the Police wildlife liaison officers in our region. This has been going on for a very long time- vixens caught when pregnant and put in fenced in artificial earth so her cubs could be used for hunting- especially when they have posh guests, who often pay large sums of money, from abroad often and who can't ride for toffee- the young foxes being just 'sitting ducks'.

Making of course a total mockery of the 'too many foxes' argument, to breed them for the purpose.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 16:22:42

This is another example of a type of person living by different rules and morals than the rest of us, and yet they appear to get away with it.

Maggieanne Thu 23-Jun-16 16:38:04

While the Tories are in power this will be allowed. Their behaviour is disgusting, these people see us as peasants and not worth scraping their boots on us.As a breed we are vile, no other animal would treat another animal the way we do, they kill to eat not for entertainment. Look at the Yulin dog festival in China, unbelievable cruelty, by man, of course.

breeze Thu 23-Jun-16 17:00:32

You are right from the second full stop onwards. First two sentences are bosh. You don't have to vote labour to care about animals. Moronic.

Maggieanne Thu 23-Jun-16 19:53:26

That's extremely rude breeze! How dare you call me moronic. One of the first things a canvasser for the Tory party said to me was that wanted to bring fox-hunting back, I don't think the labour party want that at all. What a nasty person you are, does only your opinion count?

Anniebach Thu 23-Jun-16 20:02:43

The Tories promised fox hunting would be debated and voted on again if they won the election. They are well funded by the Countryside Alliance

rosesarered Thu 23-Jun-16 20:08:00

This is not about fox's about the alleged giving of live fox cubs to a pack of dogs. However, although the cubs were certainly killed, you can see the bodies in the video, you can't see them being given to the dogs, and if they had been surely they would have been pulled to bits?So although it does look bad, were they shown to the dogs and then killed by the man, or......?It will come out, anyway, exactly what they did.
The humane thing would have been if they had been put to sleep by a vet.Not sure if 3 cubs have a future without a mother fox.If indeed they had been killed by dogs then I hope the owners will be prosecuted, and further to that, why show foxes to the dogs when fox hunting has been banned anyway?It seems that particular hunt does still go fox hunting.

whitewave Thu 23-Jun-16 20:15:09

The dogs have to be taught and trained to hunt foxes