Ok, we are out, what now?

I said tv channels from France, Germany, Holland, the USA, all over the world- and the Press, all over the world. Absolutely choker with mockery- about lemmings, and an Island floating off - and so many more.

This one just arrived from a French friend (who is a anglophile and lived there many years). Be sarchastic is you wish- but yes, I do, have friends and family all over the world. Inescapable fact:

Cartoon didn't copy sorry-

So here is one that has just arrived from Czech R:

Tanja Hilton's photo.

I think a lot of people on here need to calm down. Just look at the countries that arnt in the EU. They are doing absolutely fine

Why is it relevant that you have friends and family all over the world, granjura? Of course other countries are going to mock the UK and publish witty (sme ore than others) cartoons - we'd do the same about them. Nothing new there...

To coin a rather over-used phrase:

Keep Calm and Carry On

All those people everyone loves to hate - the politicians, the banks, the legal bods - will be steering the way forward.

(answering the OP)

Totally irrelevant- apart that it has given me an insight into the reaction from all over the world, via them, their messages, and also via French, German, Italian and Swiss channels today. Perhaps some in the UK have not had much exposure to the world's reactions.

Cartoons of Boris kissing Trump have just arrived.

POGS I can only tell you about what I heard last week about the export of cars. I think that Herr Schultz is more powerful than the german business organisation and the Germans are nothing if not imaginative where business is concerned.They will come to some other conclusion and there has been trade with India mentioned.
I don't believe them that they don't have a Plan B but they will exert pressure to keep the status quo with the Uk because it suits everybody.
In the end the UK may have to pay - as much or more than they used to. But now they want to make their own laws( what laws I wonder) and now they can. The man on the street is now in charge of making his own laws, he has his country back. This was always a mystery to me. I live in the EU, I feel that the laws governing my life are made in Stuttgart by elected representatives and my country is mine because I live in it and pay my taxes. I didn't have to leave the EU for that.
These bon mots were fed to the man on the street and in the end he voted LEAVE.

That's an old one, granjura. Yesterday he was kissing a fish. That wasn't a cartoon!

Kissing Trump was a mural on a wall in Bristol.

Thank you Monica

So I think I am correct in saying the figures are produced by pollsters not say by a body such as the government. Therefore the figures cannot be used as a FACT.

I am not arguing as to whether they are right or wrong I was interested to know who, what and how they were produced as so many people rely on them as factual information. I would think they are not usually far off the mark. Cheers.

Apparently Germany, France and Italy have a greater say in our exit than the smaller countries.

All day I have been trying to think of anything positive about this, elegran, but as some have said, it's a bit difficult when we are still trying to believe it and are feeling so disappointed and worried about what is happening to our country. I have been proud to be a citizen of the EU as well as a Scot and a Brit, but am now very sad that that is being taken away from me. What I have come up with is the possibility that we might not have to put things like railway franchises out to tender and be able to choose the best people to run our railways rather than whoever will pay the most - I know that this is unlikely while we will probably have a right-wing Westminster government for some time, but it cheered me up to think of it.

To paraphrase mccculloch's post about fascists and racists, not all well-educated people voted Remain, but the proportion of well-educated people voting Remain was higher than the proportion voting Leave.

MargaretX

Interesting, thank you for replying. Prost!

Kissing Trump was a mural on a wall in Bristol.
Was it Banksy?
Bristol voted Remain.

Got to page 5 of the messages and couldn't bear to read anymore "doom and gloom" messages. We just have to get on with it,all this moaning doesn't help at all. I voted remain mainly for my children and grandchildren. Let's just make the best of things

62% Remain 38% Leave
if anyone was in the least bit interested

which is nearer to what I predicted than the actual result was!!

That was the Bristol result (posts in between)

We just have to get on with it,all this moaning doesn't help at all. I voted remain mainly for my children and grandchildren. Let's just make the best of things
My sentiments too kittye

I do think that calm is needed. It will all shake down in time.

The EU had strayed too far from its original brief as the Common Market, and Britain is not alone in having been disturbed by the increasing micromanagement of members' legal systems and economies. That was never what it was meant to be about; and inevitably the larger countries like Germany have the biggest say. Nor was it meant to expand to 28 countries which is totally unwieldy and unmanageable - and more countries waiting in the wings bringing their own troubles to contend with would have made it even less manageable.

I am sure that the EU has taken a message away from this and that may in the long run be to the benefit of the member countries. They will also be fully aware how close the vote was here - too close to be legitimate in my opinion.

I really doesn't matter what your sentiments are Jalima and Kittye. If people want to moan they will do so. Who appointed you both as prefects because that is what this is sounding like? Do leave everyone alone to moan or not moan and it will pass as we start to talk about the reality of what happens in in the days to come.

Boaty Mac Boatface all over again! You can't trust the general public to make a sensible decision. The result is so close it's going to be hard to govern this country. I can hear the French planning to demolish the Jungle already and not stop any illegal immigrants getting across to the UK. I think the immigration problem will become worse not better and with immigrants from non-European countries, not the generally productive Europeans. What incentive is there now for European countries to stop illegal immigrants from heading for the UK? Most of the European immigrants are educated and work hard to contribute a lot to this country, while a great many immigrants from other continents are attracted by the prospect of free benefits for all and streets paved with gold! They tend on the whole, to be less well educated. We need to toughen up our immigration policies and strengthen our borders and only allow in people who already have jobs to go to and throw out anyone who is a deprain on the economy like the Romanian beggars in London.

Too much to ask. The best of what? A tiny little closed off nation looking inwards and backwards.

Original post - cloud cuckoo land.

GrandmaMoira, see my post of 13.02pm

trisher - it will take time

Dandibelle - quite.

They are, Phoebes. That's what the Le Touquet reorganisation is about. Why should France have UK borders? We lost Calais centuries ago.

What's a deprain? Romanians have been allowed here for nearly ten years. The leave brigade said today that EU citizens living in the UK are welcome to stay. Of course, they are lying.