Ok, we are out, what now?

We are not that tiny by population. 22nd largest.

Looking backwards - it is beginning to feel a bit like that.

Inwards - yes and no. Yes, some are. But also, Britan has 65 million people. I think there are multiple millions that are not.

Why would they be lying? I dont understand.

POGS, not a fact, but as near one as can be. Remember in all walks of life especially science and factually based activities we work on approximations and what we believe to be true. The existence of many sub-atomic particles was predicted and much research done on the assumption that they exist long before their existence became a provable fact.

gracesgran sorry thought I was entitled to an opinion too..my mistake! I'm afraid it's you who sounds like a prefect. I'll just keep my big "gob" shut and let you worry yourself silly

Very passive aggressive Kittye You are, of course entitled to put forward an opinion but there is no entitlement for anyone that people agree with a proffered opinion nor are you "entitled" to instruct, although no one can stop you doing it - but expect people to say no. Instructions are rather different to putting forward an opinion in my view.

My lips are sealed!

I think we now have to all pull together and stop all the bickering. We need to make this work whether we voted in or out for the sake of everyone. Unfortunately if David Cameron had had a little more backbone and stood up to the EU earlier we would not have this problem now. The EU thought we were an easy touch.

I see from the evening news that the remaining countries are already ganging together to make sure we go as soon as possible. They are not happy with our democratic right to vote in a way they do not like. They are saying we are not going to get any easy time from them. Well nothing changes there does it.

Considering a move to Edinburgh!- lovely city. Not much of a practical scheme for the whole of England though.

I personally love being a multi-cultural society, but the government need to address all the immigration concerns, by starting discussions about introducing a fair and just points system like those used by Canada and Australia.

What now? Well the Bank of England spent 250 billion today to stop the pound falling like a stone - that's 24 years of EU contributions in one day! So I don't expect all those promised funds to match the ends of EU subsidies to farmers and poorer parts of the UK soon or a new hospital a day. I have a two friends who work in EU projects training disabled people and unemployed low skill youngsters - one was due to sign an EU deal to train 10,000 adults in the West Midlands tomorrow. Billions have been wiped off people's pension finds, another friend whose life savings are in stock market saving products is in tears. So I suppose the only thing I can say in this sorry mess is at least Farage will lose his job as an MEP and I wish my neighbour who works for an EU company in the UK the best of luck as they were warned they may relocate it in the event of Brexit. My daughter who is trying to move house as she has rrlocated her job had the other side pull put of the deal and she is in tears too, also her husband is a Scot and she us worried about the break up of the UK. And people expect me to behave as some sort of good loser - sorry it is going to take a while to grieve. The final straw was the leaders of Leave explaining that immigration won't necessarily fall any time soon.

I keep saying this but who says "ellenemery"? Has this diktat come down from on high of has someone elected you to tell those who think we have just made a huge mistake that they may not say this. You are, of course totally at liberty to say but do not expect another grown adult to do as you tell them.

Why does anyone think those who were so strongly for remain as now going to say - "Oh all right then this is fine"? It is not going to happen; certainly not today.

I have just seen one of the politicians from "Leave" saying they have to take into consideration the feelings of the large number of people who did not want this. Sensible and thoughtful man.

Ellenemery, that's ridiculous. The remaining countries are the EU. We are not any more. They do not want the EU to disintegrate any further and I do not blame them.
If we didn't want them to do that, we should have stayed.
You can't leave a party and then complain that everyone is talking about you behind your back - or to your face in this case.

durhamjen "They do not want the eu to disintegrate any further" I'm afraid they might not have a choice if Marine Le Pen wins the French general election next year.

It's all very well for people to say we've got to work together, make the best of things, and so on...but how are we going to do that? If mortgages go up, how can we do anything about it? If property values fall, what can we do? If petrol prices rise, causing everything else to cost more, how do we make the best of that? If people lose their jobs, how are we supposed to work together to make things better?

The fact is, we've shot ourselves in the foot and there's nothing we can do about it, whether we decide to put on a cheery grin and pledge to "all pull together" or just sit and feel miserable (that's me, at the moment!) Worst of all, it's our generation's fault. It's us oldies, not the youngsters, who have swung the vote in favour of Leave. Makes me feel sad for my country and ashamed for my generation.

I so agree with you Bluecat.

Well, if we don't work together, we will be working against each other and the devil may take the hindmost. The country would certainly sink. "if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand" Matthew 12:22-30

Bluecat says it all.

Whichever way the voting went,I wish the winning percentage had been much higher.
It is a difficult starting point to reform with the country so evenly split.

DD spent the day in a meeting with colleagues from around Europe who were all sitting round saying "What the f**k have you done?" All she could do was assure them it wasn't her and wonder where she was going to find the millions of pounds funding for research that she has been getting from Europe.

Am staying with friend in Rostrevor Northern Ireland. I found her in tears this morning at the thought of Ireland once more being divided and the boarder coming back. Have been to events in Dublin and Belfast. No passports needed for Dublin.

It might be worthwhile checking out what Gisels Stuart. Chairwoman of bot leave campaign is saying.

We went into Newery to chafe pounds into euros 1.23. About the same. It's the dollar we have fallen against and oil and some other commodities are quoted I dollars so we can expect more expensive fuel etc

Hope we can exit gracefully and set a standard for an 'associate '. Of the European community.

So right Bluecat

Well as it is looking a little bit like some other countries might want to follow our example and bearing in mind that we are the 5th largest economy in the world (so they have been endlessly telling us) I think we should face the future with confidence! Yes there will be some shaky times ahead but ultimately I hope we can regain our national pride and entrepreneurial spirit and make a great job of our future. Onwards and upwards

durhamjen, unfortunately, Poland and Hungary have already voted in anti-EU right wing governments and Sweden and Denmark both have a significant proportion of their populations who would like to see their countries out of the EU.

Personally, now we have voted out I think it is quite reasonable for the other governements in the EU to say 'You voted 'out' so out you go. It is what I would do in that situation. I think the Brexiters are over confident in thinking we can make a smooth transition from being in the EU to being out with all the privileges of being In.

I am glad Cameron has decided to resign, nothing personal, I just think that those who campaigned to get us out are the ones that should deal with the results of the campaign they espoused.

1.27 in Marks and Sparks on Thursday.(euro to pound)

1.21 today.

That was yesterday, marion. Today we are sixth, having been overtaken by France.