Ok, we are out, what now?

Thanks for that, granjura.
Hope it's on facebook.

Here is a link to answer your question about a second Scottish referendum luluaugust. fullfact.org/scotland/ask-full-fact-who-paying-scottish-referendum. The petition you referred to Lazigirl is for a second referendum regarding the UK's membership of the EU. petition.parliament.uk. (If the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based on a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.)

As I type, the petition for a second referendum is rapidly gaining momentum. Now 1,651,490. If you feel unhappy about the result of the first referendum you have nothing to lose by signing the petition! Now 1,655,817!

It seems to be gaining momentum

Sorry that I repeated information about the petition. This is such a long thread and I had not read every page. Anyway, it is now 1,706,133.

I think it is the Westminster (i.e. UK parliament) that has the final decision about any independence referendums in countries within the UK.

Didn't someone say ages ago that it would never get past the House of Lords?

We who voted Leave ( on this forum) are happy with the result, but are simply sick to death of all the anger, intolerance for others views and vitriol from some posters and have now turned our back on these threads.we have no need to 'justify' and argue endlessly, it was a fair vote and you will all have to accept it ( in the end.)I have only popped up here to say this as there is a sneery 'where are the Brexiters' tone going on
Would anyone be demanding a second referendum if the Remain vote had won the day?No, didn't think so.

Apparently, Nigel Farage said he would ask for one if a Remain vote won by just 4 p%.

But the referendum was won on a lie. Wouldn't be so bad if it has been run with honesty and integrity.

You can't possibly know that, whitewave. People had different reasons for voting to leave.

Go on then, roses, clear off again.

Okay, it was won on lots of lies.

I think roses that people on here, whatever their vote, are somewhat shocked at the speed at which things have panned out. And also how quickly the Brexit leaders have backtracked on what they were saying.

As for all this petition for a second referendum, the EU commissioner who has just resigned said it all really: what has been done cannot be undone. The message has been given by the people of UK (well half of those that bothered to vote anyway). The EU leaders are not happy bunnies. They are talking swift exit.

What we need now is a strong leadership to get the UK through this next very complex and volatile period. Who that will be or how it will be carried forward is anybody's guess. Hopefully Boris and Michael are busy working this out which is why they are not high profile. Looking forward to seeing their plan of action and the timeline.

Me? I can use my dual nationality to remain an EU citizen

Just been lurking on Mumsnet. Couple of OPs there regretted their leave vote and feeling they've been lied to by the Leave camp and/or were not given enough information by the Remain camp. How many others feel that if the vote was today, they would vote differentl?

The petition has (at time of writing) 1,825,256 signatures. If Dodgy Dave wants to salvage anything of his reputation, he could come up with some line about 'doing what the people want' (and Mr Farage has already suggested ) and hold a second referendum. Somehow I doubt if he's got the guts to do it.

1,833,241 Looks like it will be 2 million by the end of the day.

Then Dave could sail off into the sunset to Lanzarote with a clearer conscience.

1,837,929 Wow!

Farage did say that, if it was something like a 48%-52% vote in favour of Remain, the matter would not be ended. Unsurprisingly, he has not mentioned it again, though his prediction of the vote was uncannily accurate - not just in the way he thought it might be.

I don't blame the young for blaming the old, as our generation has been largely responsible for the result but they are the ones likely to suffer the most. For a start, many of us are retired or close to retirement, but they face working lives where their rights are likely to be greatly reduced. So many of the laws protecting worker's right - such as the protection of vulnerable groups such as agency workers, for a start - derive from EU laws. Given that we are likely to get an even more rightwing government, boosted by their Leave victory, those laws will probably be the first to go.

Well of course he hasn't mentioned it again - it's up to the Remain lot to do so if they wish...

how legitimate is a referendum when more people have already petitioned parliament to think again than those constituting the slender majority for brexit? Or when so many wanting to remain are the ones taking over and outliving us within the next 10-20 years.
other countries do not use simple majorities in referendums : a two thirds majority is needed to underpin the legitimacy of the vote.
and already citizens across Europe are asking for reforms...ones our young people could help shape ( www.spinelligroup.eu) ...in a citizens convention.

The petition has 1,916,755 signatures, so not far off 2 million.

They have, Ana. That's why this petition was started.

1,921,434

Has there ever been such a big one?