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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

petra Sat 25-Jun-16 17:46:26

Roses I'm quiet because I'm recovering from a Champagne induced hangover. We decided to throw a party last night when we saw some of shares had gone up.

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 17:48:02

"Has there ever been such a big one?"

shock whitewave

I assume you're referring to the petition!

Wheniwasyourage Sat 25-Jun-16 18:32:18

2,015,708 now, so even bigger - who says size isn't everything? shock . I did swither about signing it, as it seems a bit late, and I don't suppose it will do any good, but then as the Leave lot were not playing by the rules, I don't see why I shouldn't sign. Thanks for the link, everyone who put it on. I would add it again, but can never get these things to work. Just off to click the link in my email.

lujaha Sat 25-Jun-16 18:32:35

I have signed the petition for another referendum. If that is unsuccessful I can say that I am glad to have moved to Scotland this year and hope that Scotland votes to separate from England and stay in the EU.
It is not "Britain" any more but England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland. So BRexit (such an unpleasant word) is inappropriate. England voted out, Wales also, not the others.
This country is not "Great" anymore but has been brought down by ill-informed people who have not bothered to do their research before voting.I am ashamed of the people who voted out in the country and saddened by the subsequent disastrous events.

Gracesgran Sat 25-Jun-16 18:33:20

2,026,004

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 18:34:42

Voilà!

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 18:35:23

2,030,523

I reckon it's getting about 4000 signatures a minute.

Jalima Sat 25-Jun-16 18:45:24

This was too big a decision to be treated like a vote on Strictly

Alea how true, and I think, according to some links which I posted on another thread (don't ask me which, it could even have been this one!) that is how some people who were subsequently interviewed were treating it.

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 18:48:09

Agree with both of you. The pre-referendum debates reminded me of those interviews for beauty contests or something from Blind Date. How sad that something so important turned into a voxpop media event.

Leticia Sat 25-Jun-16 18:48:12

I have signed it.

Jalima Sat 25-Jun-16 18:49:55

All Ive ever heard from locals is that they want to vote 'out' to stop immigrants from taking over, nothing else, no reasoned argument just immigration which has been played up to by the 'out' brigade, we have all been manipulated.
I don't know what they think immigrants are taking over unless it is working in the muddy fields, the poly tunnels, the NHS, cleaning cars, working in the hospitality industry (with a smile in the main!) etc.

There is no reasoned argument unless they have applied for any of these jobs and been turned down in favour of someone from the EU.
You're right ethel, people have been manipulated.

Jalima Sat 25-Jun-16 18:51:04

All I have heard from people who voted out is that they don't want to be 'ruled by the EU'
I haven't heard anyone mention immigration.

I signed it (I think I linked it on another thread and it was over 895,000 then).

Elegran Sat 25-Jun-16 18:54:36

2,062,028 That is more than 4.5% of the number of people on the electoral roll (which was 44,722,000 in 2015).

So a larger percentage of potential voters think that the design of the referendum was flawed than the 4% (4% of those who actually did vote) by which leave exceeded remain 52/48.

Ana Sat 25-Jun-16 18:57:17

How odd! Or is it, given the opportunities available to double or even treble sign...

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 18:59:37

I agree with you, Jalima, although immigration was a subliminal message.

The Remain campaigners did an abysmal job of educating people about the amount of control the EU actually exercises. I did my best when some posters (what's happened to practical?) came up with ridiculous links, but I was made to think I was talking down to people. (I guess I can't help it after all those years as a teacher hmm)

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 19:01:22

You can't double sign - at least not with the same email address. I forgot I'd signed, so signed again and was told I couldn't.

I don't think it's odd. It's gone viral and there an awful lot of people who feel as some of us on GN do.

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 19:03:11

Everyone I know who voted out did so because of immigration

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 19:04:24

Where is practical?

Busy on the Express?

Ana Sat 25-Jun-16 19:05:41

Obviously not with the same email address, daphnedil. That's what I meant by 'opportunities'. Many people have more than one email address and/or can use those of friends or relatives. Just saying.

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 19:11:34

Hmmm. Clutching at straws?

MargaretX Sat 25-Jun-16 19:19:56

We of the middle class always knew that one day the working class or the under class would rise up and pay us back for the years and years of neglect. We knew it through the history books and now it has happened. They have voted us OUT of the most advantageous club for free nations that ever existed.
it is unique.

I am glad that I am still IN with my english german family and thats what all the expats think.

crun Sat 25-Jun-16 19:24:32

According to Farage we're due another referendum.

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 19:25:14

It's a bit unfair to call Leavers 'underclass', because I really don't think they all fit a stereotype.

I think the problem is that the metropolitan(?) bankers, politicians and business leaders, etc turned a blind eye to the people they were exploiting. I don't think they DID realise there would be payback time.

daphnedill Sat 25-Jun-16 19:25:56

Go, Nige! grin

Elegran Sat 25-Jun-16 19:30:27

Yup,^The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way."^ That was on 17 May.

Do hope you get your wish on this, Nige.