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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

Elegran Sat 25-Jun-16 19:31:48

Or rather "The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way."

Ana Sat 25-Jun-16 19:38:06

Hmmm. Clutching at straws?

No, whitewave, I would welcome another referendum if it would put a stop to all this bitter recrimination. But what if it was still the 'wrong' result for those determined not to accept the one we've had already?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 19:40:57

I can't believe there is any chance of another referendum. We would be a laughing stock.

Gracesgran Sat 25-Jun-16 19:45:45

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petra Sat 25-Jun-16 20:07:25

So now as well as being thick, I'm part of the 'underclass'
I looked up the definition
"They are an underclass who lack any stake in popular capitalism and who are caught up in the dependency culture"
I can't relate to that as my OH retired at 53 and me at 55 when we went to live in Portugal. We bought again in another country, came back to uk where we have several properties. Don't call me underclass.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 20:11:57

Why would you be included in the "underclass" *petra"? Doesn't it mean the poorly off? Doesn't sound like you! Just because you voted leave doesn't make you one of the ones who voted that way for the wrong reasons.

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 20:12:17

ana it wouldn't be the wrong result because this time the correct parameters would be set

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 20:13:46

I can't understand that, about the poor wanting out. What do they think they will gain? And how do they think these benefits would come about?

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 20:14:57

Perhaps because of immigration, I suppose. Without needy immigrants there would be more in the benefits pot for them.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 20:15:16

Just thinking aloud now!

merlotgran Sat 25-Jun-16 20:17:16

Scissors, Paper, Stone?

Best of Three?

I wonder how many bitter threads would be running on here if Remain had won?

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 20:17:34

Well they ready know theyve been sold a pup over that one

crun Sat 25-Jun-16 20:25:06

Boris has taken the wind out of the sails of the extremists already:

www.cambridge-news.co.uk/reports-of-no-more-polish-vermin-signs-distributed-in-huntingdon/story-29443411-detail/story.html
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/far-right-demonstrators-take-streets-8281867

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 20:31:25

merlot I did say it would be more interesting if the other side (to my view) won. wink

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 20:33:21

That is horrible. (crun's link)

See! Thick as two short planks. And evil weith it. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 25-Jun-16 20:34:35

That is so worrying! shock

Gracesgran Sat 25-Jun-16 20:36:05

Very 1930s crun. It's appalling - the remain leaders have stirred this up and made it seem acceptable.

whitewave Sat 25-Jun-16 20:49:41

This nasty fungus seems to growing. They've already been implicated in the death of one of us
Now they are after innocent workers

luluaugust Sat 25-Jun-16 21:03:47

Thanks Alice16, very interesting a Scottish friend tells me she and her colleagues feel very weary at the thought of another Referendum

suzied Sat 25-Jun-16 21:11:39

I heard an old guy on the radio saying he'd voted out because his wife had to wait 6 more years for her pension ....?????WTF????

Maggiemaybe Sat 25-Jun-16 21:24:24

The current government has been happy to quote "EU regulations" as one of the main reasons why women born in the 1950s are taking the brunt of state pension age equalisation. It's not true, but obviously some will believe the lie. Chickens coming home to roost, sadly.

granjura Sat 25-Jun-16 21:28:54

Or the old guy interviewed who said he voted because of immigration. Don't mind the immigrants from the EU, they are no trouble- I voted to keep them Muslims out' WTF indeed???

Deedaa Sat 25-Jun-16 21:37:29

We seem to have a lot of Eastern European immigrants, including families with children, yet our local primary school has places to spare for September and one of the nurseries is having trouble finding enough children to keep open. The hospitals have a lot of immigrant patients but they seem to be mainly Asian families who are at least second generation.

Joelsnan Sat 25-Jun-16 22:01:54

Interesting
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/25/europe-is-fed-up-it-is-simmering-with-rage-what-now-for-the-eu/

Alidoll Sat 25-Jun-16 22:06:41

Here's a wee lifeline Scotland "may" give those in England that wish to remain...

Those leavers really should read this btw. Makes interesting reading....especially about the rise in goods costs..35% for dairy products anyone?

Oh and new passports and driving licenses for all...that'll be a hundred quid at least.