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Ok, we are out, what now?

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Elegran Fri 24-Jun-16 07:49:53

The vote is in, we are to leave the EU. Deep breath, everyone, a new start begins today.

What needs to be done now? No recriminations allowed, no ranting, please. Constructive ideas only for what steps we should take now - we meaning the government, the legal bods, the negotiators, the banks, large and small busineeses, social departments, and orfinary people?

Bear in mind that it will take two years to settle the divorce details, then we have to begin creating a new relationship with the single market of the EU, if we are to buy and sell anything with them, after which new partners might will want to negotiate deals with us. Time scale unknown, but likely to take years. They could be lean years, our credit rating has gone down instantly, and our £ notes won't buy as much abroad at the moment. Better get a taste for British-grown food.

Meanwhile through and after the divorce we have to feed the children (without any alimony, just on our own efforts, and without the inlaws helping us to get orders any more)

The au pairs and the chars will soon go home, which means we'll have to do things ourselves which we used to let them do - look after our aged relations, nurse us after operations, and so on. On the plus side, that should mean we will be needed in those jobs, if we want them.

durhamjen Mon 27-Jun-16 00:14:57

We have to pay for them ourselves, daphne. Otherwise the workhouse.
Over 3547,000 signatures now. I can't believe that over 3000000 are fake.

daphnedill Sun 26-Jun-16 22:32:32

Apparently the House of Commons is monitoring the petition for fraudulent activity. If only electoral expenses were investigated so quickly!

daphnedill Sun 26-Jun-16 22:28:21

@PPP

Very nice of central government to suggest cutting business taxes, as local authorities have been told they can keep their business taxes to fund social care, etc.

Who's going to fund social care for the elderly and disabled?

Anniebach Sun 26-Jun-16 22:24:09

Obieone, the allegation that only 400'000 in the petition are eligible to vote was the chap from UKIP !

durhamjen Sun 26-Jun-16 22:03:08

constitution-unit.com/2016/06/24/the-road-to-brexit-16-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-process-of-leaving-the%e2%80%afeu/

Anniebach Sun 26-Jun-16 21:38:49

If documents realy have been released to the BBC it should be said who leaked them or whose papers they are, I have no time for 'sources close to' or ' I was talking to a member of X party and he told me ' . No different to me lying and saying I have received a PM from someone who posts a lot on this forum and they told X.Y.Z . From this forum have planned to cause rows here .

Ana Sun 26-Jun-16 21:37:16

Ha, ha (hollow laughter). Not much chance of that on here, PPP...

PPP Sun 26-Jun-16 21:34:56

Read Rohan Silva in today's Sunday Times - cut corporation tax to make UK the best business location; cut business tax rates to boost small business confidence, and ; make it easier for the most talented people in the world to live here and contribute to our economy.

We may be daunted by the result, but that's democracy for you. Embrace the change and the challenge, unite - don't bicker and look forward, not back

obieone Sun 26-Jun-16 21:05:05

I heard on Question Time, someone saying that only 400,000 on the petition are eligible to vote in the referendum. I do not remember who said it, and dont know how accurate that is.

Jalima Sun 26-Jun-16 21:04:28

someone has leaked documents to the BBC purporting to show that Corbyn has deliberately sabotaged the referendum.
Well, I did think he was mightily embarrassed to do a U turn and come out on the Remain side.

obieone Sun 26-Jun-16 21:03:23

I thought about high fiving you rosesarered!

Ana Sun 26-Jun-16 20:59:45

Sigh...

Jalima Sun 26-Jun-16 20:58:59

Apparently people in Australia and Iceland have been signing it using old postcodes from when they used to live here.

Well, DD is still eligible to vote even though she lives overseas

To register as an overseas voter, British citizens must have been registered in a UK constituency less than 15 years ago
UK expats are voting by post, by appointing someone to vote on their behalf or in person at their home polling station if they are visiting the UK
Citizens from other European countries - apart from Ireland, Malta and Cyprus - do not get to vote on whether the UK remains part of the EU.
Malta and Cyprus are both Commonwealth countries

So, if they voted, they must be eligible to sign the petition too.

rosesarered Sun 26-Jun-16 20:58:59

X posts obione smile

Jane10 Sun 26-Jun-16 20:58:23

He prioritised a game of cricket yesterday I gather. Impressive.

rosesarered Sun 26-Jun-16 20:58:16

Probably all catching up on sleep, it IS the weekend after all.

obieone Sun 26-Jun-16 20:58:15

I dont know a thing about Patel.
Gove Boris friends! ha ha [grin}

As I have said at least twice on gransnet, it is the weekend. Politians of all persuasions love their weekends and holidays. And as I have said before, they do not even come back to Britain in a hurry for riots. And having a think about it, nor when a large employer in their constituency is in financial trouble.

Ana Sun 26-Jun-16 20:56:45

Boris has been shown on the news arriving for a meeting at his 'country retreat' with other Conservative party members. He hasn't 'disappeared'.

Jalima Sun 26-Jun-16 20:51:55

obione, please tell me. Where are your friends now, Gove, Boris, Patel and co?
To be fair, 17,410,741 other people voted the same way that obieone says she voted
And I don't know if she ever said that she knows them personally

Presumably trying to cobble together a plan for our future.

granjura Sun 26-Jun-16 20:44:39

obione, please tell me. Where are your friends now, Gove, Boris, Patel and co? They've been in our face for weeks- and they have just vanished. Gone.

We ahve questions to ask them on our future?

obieone Sun 26-Jun-16 20:30:26

Why did they only have 5 weeks?

Anniebach Sun 26-Jun-16 20:16:12

The entire referendum campaign was the blue on blue infighting and the usual racist rants frim Fsrsge.

What is so unfair is the members of the Senydd only had five weeks to campaign, England first again

daphnedill Sun 26-Jun-16 19:49:59

Great Britain is a geographical term to describe England, Wales and Scotland - just saying.

Legs55 Sun 26-Jun-16 19:47:04

PRINTMISS a sensible reasoned post. I believe we all & by all I mean Institutions, Government, Business & us as Individuals - we can again become Great Britain. OK Financial Markets went a bit haywire on Friday but have since recovered to same level as February they just hit panic button because they did not plan for Leave vote. Governor of Bank of England made a very sensible speech (they had planned for whichever way the vote went) & this will help to steady the markets. It will definitely take time for the dust to settle but we must accept the result whether it's what you wished for - no falling out with friends as I believe is happening. Here's hoping for a bright future.

Lazigirl Sun 26-Jun-16 18:11:41

Apparently an Oxford Law professor Derrick Wyatt QC has suggested that legally it may be in doubt whether it is necessary for Article 50 to be activated by formal letter or notification from our PM. He is saying that it is possible that just by DC meeting to discuss with members of EC Council and D Tusk next Tuesday, he is in effect, though not explicitly, signalling Brexit! An interesting observation, posted on BBC News site.