Being blamed

I saw a couple of young people who didn't vote being interviewed and the basic reason was they didn't understand enough to vote. Even after discussing it amongst their friends, everyone decided not to vote. Now that's the kind of thing that worries me.

In the run up to the Scottish referendum, independence was discussed in schools to make sure the 16-18 year olds had an understanding of what their vote was about. Politics has been taught as part of the National Curriculum as part of the Citizenship subject since 2002, yet in the last 4 general elections in average on 40% of young voters voted. In the 1990s it was around 60%, so why aren't more not less voting these days?

I saw a young woman interviewed a couple or so weeks before the referendum and she had no clue that there was to be a referendum - and wasn't at all sure what the EU was. Presumably she had a vote to stay in or come out of something she hadn't really heard of.
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That's really depressing to hear. I think some people just choose to ignore a lot of what is happening around them. I can see the appeal, but I'm too curious.

Just read that people at Glastonbury were polled. 73% had voted by post and 83% voted Remain.

My children (18 and 23) voted.

@ Jalima

Was this one of the people interviewed?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li7wNTkL-dY

It has to be a fake, but I have really taight people like that.

taight = taught

The people have spoken....get over it

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Then two oldest members of our immediate family (94 and 89) voted remain. Our 3 DC's-2 voted remain and 1 voted leave.Myself and my husband voted leave.And for the record I do not regret my vote,and wouldn't change it.As a family we have discussed and challenged each others views over the weeks and agreed to disagree ,but unanimously felt whatever the outcome we should all knuckle down and make the best of it.As a family.As a democratic country.Call me a crazy optimist I like to think that's something most of us in Britain are good at.Now I'm not so sure. There is so much negativity.
I understand people are worried. Did I think leaving the EU would be a walk in the park,a picnic?Of course not.All periods of change are challenging,scary even.But equally did I think staying in the EU was the answer to all our problems.On balance no.
And please don't tell me I've ruined everything for the younger generation.I've discussed this at length with our three and their friends ,and whilst the majority vowed remain some voted leave.But all agree not enough young people mobilised themselves to vote.And they appreciate if anyone's put their security on the line it's myself and my husband.Self employed with a very modest pension and the goalposts on state pension pushed back who are just as much at risk of financial fallout in the inevitable short term turbulence as they are.We've tried our best to bring our children up with a can do attitude ,and to open and inclusive to new ideas and respect different opppinions. We're not perfect.None of us are.But please don't tell me I don't care about the next generation.My first grandchild is due anytime soon a day nothing could be further from the truth.

Quote your source DD re Glastonbury.

"Note that only 35 per cent of the 18 to 24-year-olds now being soppily mourned as “disinherited” even voted. Of under-35s it was still only 58 per cent. If youth was betrayed, as the indignant claim, they helped to do it. Straw polling at Glastonbury revealed that affording £232 a head doesn’t necessarily mean bothering to book a postal vote"

Libby Purvis Times and Sunday Time.

The average age at Glastonbury was (I am told) 43.
And no we will not get over it. This will have a cataclysmic effect on our economy. And on other things - there was a cancer researcher on twitter mourning the fact that she will lose her funding. UK Science will undoubtedly suffer.

DH has just suggested we revive Logan's Run, so we can all report to the Sleepshop and stop being such an aggravation to the young folk. Perhaps we could rebrand it as Johnson's Run?

How patronising to say 'get over it', rather like speaking to a child who didn't win a pass the parcel prize, or telling a person who is depressed to pull themselves together. I am devastated, no less upset than I was as I watched the results programme overnight.

Say 'please' Anya! I'm sure you were brought up properly.

Just spoken . Was at a quiz night in Portugal last night, they were amazed such an important decision could be made on such a small majority.

daphnedill - what would have been your response if the vote had gone the other way by a similarly small margin?

The small margin is a concern to me and would have been whichever way the vote went.

As my son was saying last night. This is a democracy the vote was totally split down the middle so the government must take this into account in its negotiations. A semi-detached UK therefore makes sense to me.

The vile things being posted on Friday have made me sick. My DD's friends have said some dreadful things, ageism is bigotry too.

Luckygirl, Farage had already said another referendum would have to be taken if the vote was so close, t'other way round as he expected. But never mind him.

The fact is that people were lied to- very clearly, about the free movement of workers, about the 350mio going to the NHS, about EU rules and regs imposed on us- and so much more. And therefore that 1000s are now saying 'we regret our vote, we didn't understand the implications and believed the lies'.

I do NOT know a single person who voted remain who feels they would vote otherwise had they not been lied to. Do you?

Hence the massive difference.

Grow up DD and if you can't quote a source just admit you made it up or read it in FB

Ajanela actually a 4% majority is quite statistically significant.

I think that we will end up in the same group as Norway.

Don't pay any attention to what Farage says or wants GJ everyone knows he's a total....

Daphne no, that youtube interview wasn't what I saw (looks like a spoof!)
It was a young mother being interviewed on, I think BBC or ITV West - true, not a spoof.
Apart from Bristol, the vote was out in the West.

Well, if so many people at Glastonbury organised a postal vote or proxy vote I am impressed. One girl said she had been told there would be a polling booth set up there, presumably she registered a temporary address: somewhere in a field, Worthy Farm, Glastonbury

Again, results of a poll.

The average age at Glastonbury was 43
JessM that seems young to me
In fact that is probably the average of young friends and family I asked who still have many years of work ahead of them

The problem with raising Glastonbury is this.

There is a mix of people but the majority of younger festival goers are not from a council in estate in Plymouth (who are perhaps doing the jobs some believe to be beneath what their children should be doing), working in Tesco, flipping burgers.

They are the sons daughters of wealthy people, they are the Hunter Welly brigade , they can afford the cost of the ticket and all that goes with it, they possibly hold down good , well paid jobs, or somebody has paid for their fun.

I am not saying Glastonbury is not open to all, that would be ridiculous but it is not reflective of what goes on for so many who see the world in a different way.