As the hysterical left weep into their lattes...

Sorry obione- but I really can't read all the way back- but I can't see anyone using the word witch to address another member on this thread. So please can you re-post the 2 posts you say used the word.

And yes, I couldn't help it- so I did Google 'witches' and the Bible- and found that an estimated half a million witches were tortured, drowned and burnt alive by Christians because of what the (loving) Bible said about them. That is truly shocking, and for anyone who is a Christian and believes in the word of the Bible- I'd say it is a pretty damming insult indeed. Not for me, as I am not a Bible believer- but certainly in your mind, heart and mouth obione.

Shocking really, and totally unacceptable on an open Forum.
Signing out now, I've got some calming herbs to tend and pick, potions to make.

Sorry, time lapse posting, that was in reference to "Mornington Crescent"!!

As usual I'm totally lost. Awful wave of sadness that even sensible older women can't have a conversation without this scrappiness. Is it because you can't look each other in the eye? I'm saying women because the men are keeping their heads down.

There aren't many men anyway, and this one is too p.... off to comment.

I'm of the Mornington Crescent theory- nothing else can explain how we got from Lattes to Witchcraft in 14 pages. As someone who has actually played in a witch in an historical re-enactment can I say that they were frequently women who society wanted to punish or get rid of- so if your ma-in law had moved in or was sitting in a house you wanted it was a good way to get rid of her.

Witches!!!!!! Why are we talking about such utter rubbish.

Just nonsensical accusations from someone who has run out of insults

"Not all leavers are racists but all racists are leavers" this has been banded about quite a bit, but another supposition imo should be, not all remainers are sneerers about the perceived brainpower of brexiteers, but all sneerers will be remainers. I have often wondered why some so called famous pro remainers were allowed to voice their opinions at all because imo they did the remain campaign a great deal of harm by lumping brexiteers as some sort of lumpen uneducated sub species, and yes going back to the OP, "elitism was seen to be erupting like a poisoned boil". The week before the referendum I think I read an article in the Sunday Times magazine which was one of the most supercilious judgements I had read by a pro remainer on his perception about the raison d'etre of those who would vote out. This article was by AA Gill who eeks out a living as a restaurant critic. Hard graft doing that every day, or even every other day, sitting in posh eating establishments passing judgements on the calibre of the food, sometimes accompanied by his wife who he amusingly refers to as "The blonde, how edgy However, all that's beside the point. He like other high profile remainers are often fully paid up members of the metropolitan elite and too many have passed sneering opinions on the less fortunate who do not inhabit their world and there doesn't seem to be any possibilty AA Gill, Eddie Izzard, Bob Geldof, Emma Thompson et all will move to say Boston, Lincs anytime soon, where over 75% of the population there overwhelmingly voted to leave. I know Emma Thompson finds England per se as a grey, miserable, cake filled hole, whatever that's supposed to mean, nevertheless I can't help feeling that leafy Hampstead isn't quite as depressed as some of the regions where the Brexit vote prevailed is.

I think the witches came about because harrigran asked for some new emoticons - "A red card, a yellow card and a ducking stool for the real witches". Quite a good idea really

As one poster said: poke a dog in a cage long enough and it will bite back.

Terribull

"Not all remainers are sneerers about the perceived brainpower of brexiters, but all sneerers will be remainers'

A very good juxtaposition.

TerriBull that's a great post, thanks!

Well said terribull

I can't be the only one who's noticed a fair amount of sneering from Leave supporters on GN

Indeed- and the title of this thread says it all.

You won't be the only one who SAYS it.

Actually it wasn't jenty who decided I was a witch, on another thread. It was Breeze. Sorry jenty.

I think it is important to shop in areas that are struggling, to put money into their economy

Good idea - let's all go and do our shopping in Greece. Oh, I almost forgot. We'll lose our freedom of movement to patronise our European poor relations. And it will be goodbye to the booze cruise as well.

Well, my neighbour is going to Greece because she wants to support their economy - and for some

Not much around here

I've heard today that my 16 year old granddaughter is still going to do the Ebacc instead of A levels as she thinks it will help her to travel and get work in Europe, or even go and get a degree in Europe where she will not have to pay huge fees.
Even if it means that it will be more awkward than before.
Good on her, I say.

I thought I read somewhere that Erasmus won't be affected.

Oh Jen that is great if she can still do that - the movement and choice of students was one of the things I so did not want to be affected. I have always felt that travel and being with different nationalities is so beneficial to young people in widening their horizons and understanding, whatever career they wish to pursue.
You have no idea how that little bit of news about a young girl that I do not know has lifted my spirits.

How can we possibly know that Anya? The terms have not been decided. Erasmus is funded by the EU, so why would it not be affected? (tragically I say).

I've just spoken to a someone who voted to Leave. She says she made up her mind early on, mostly in response to pledges to end immigration (!!) and the millions to be released for spending on the NHS, and thereafter didn't listen to anything from the Remain camp. Now that the furore has died down she has taken the time to look at what the Remain campaigners were saying and deeply regrets her decision to vote as she did. She says she feels hoodwinked by what she calls 'misinformation' by the Leave campaign, but also takes responsibility for her own 'blinkered' approach to the debate. She would very much like to have an opportunity to vote again, but realises that's unlikely to happen. Her children are very angry with her for refusing to properly listen to both sides of the debate before making up her mind and she feels she's let herself and them down. I felt very sorry for her.

I think that families and communities need to really work hard to mend fences, but I also understand that it will take time for those who voted to Remain to come to terms with what's happened. My own sense of shock doesn't seem to have diminished at all, but is being amplified by the disarray the country finds itself in. I also have a very wide range of friends from other countries and each and every one of them is of the opinion that the UK is suffering from some sort of collective insanity. I feel uncomfortable responding to them when I'm still processing the result myself.

Erasmus funding is being protected (apparently) until 2020, but there are no guarantees for studying for a complete degree in the EU.