Crikey. They really hate Farage now.

I've been appalled at the BBC coverage of the whole referendum; Johnson should never have been given the last word in the debate as that is always what sticks in peoples minds. I have a friend (soon to be ex friend) who is of Irish/Pakistan parentage and is a UKIP supporter. I can't understand how she can be. So many second generation immigrants spoke of immigration being a problem during the debates; I'm trying to work out why this is.

Well said nokkie. Without Farage we wouldnt have had a referendum, we would soon be losing the £ and democracy would cease to exist in the new United States of Europe. Its the EU that discriminates against non-EU, UKIP want an even playing field for all. What bothers me more is the pro-EU bias in most of the media (all in receipt of EU funds) and the appalling behaviour of the left wing youth (or have you not noticed the requests for old people to hurry up and die!) Farages attitude may not suit everyone but he is one of very few politicians who say what they believe.

Surely the reason Farage is so often in the media is precisely because he talks a good talk. Whereas when others from UKIP open their mouths, nine times out of ten they put their foot in it. UKIP is essentially a one man band. Though not yet a busted flush.

Tegan I may have some insight to your puzzlement regarding the views of second generation immigrants. We have lovely neighbours who hailed from the Indian subcontinent in the 60s. India as we know, has a long standing, historical connection to this country. Our neighbours feel that whilst they cannot bring elderly relatives from India so they can look after them in their declining years, people from the European Union with no previous connection to this country, can come here without hindrance. Whatever the rights and wrongs, to our neighbours, this doesn't feel fair.

As some have observed, the immigration question is complex.

What bothers me more is the pro-EU bias in most of the media

I'm not sure what media you're referring to Leyburn, but The Sun, The Mail, The Express, The Times, and The Telegraph were all extremely pro-leave. BBC and ITV were obliged to give equal air time to both sides.

I like Nigel Farage. I moved from the North to the South 60 years ago. I have a couple of good degrees from a top university and have never thought where I was born had any relevance to my intelligence. What a lot of blinkered old grannies you are, I am Brexiting Gransnet immediately.

Don't worry Tegan, the BBC know that their audiences are on the whole quite capable of making up their own minds about Farage, but only if he is given enough rope to hang himself. The more exposure he gets the more people he will antagonise.

And someone who supports f...wit Farage is not blinkered?

@Blinko

The UK government has total control over immigrants from non-EU countries and always has, so it could make a rule that elderly parents could come to the UK.

The majority of immigrants to the UK come from non-EU countries. Of those from the EU, approximately 20% come from the Republic of Ireland and I can't see the UK changing an agreement which has been in existence since the 1920s.

Even if the UK adopted some kind of points system for EU citizens (which it already has for non-EU), it's highly unlikely that an elderly relative from India would have more points than (say) an engineer from Germany or IT programmer from Estonia. Both will contribute more the UK economy.

The numbers just don't add up.

Napoleon did have massive delusions of grandeur too. Au revoir.

@Napoleon

Shouldn't that be Grexiting?

Au revoir!

Napoleon not "Au revoir"
"Adieu"
(Wish I could say your contributions will be missed but I have only read this one )

Why the North?

Farage is a loathsome cretin, but he has spoken for some and he is a good speaker. I can see him & philip green in a boozer with their pub rhetoric, "I told 'em they weren't laughing now,' says Farage, 'I told 'em 'what part of forgotten don't you understand,' says Green.

Twats the pair of them. I'm hoping we'll get a labour gov't who will give us a 2nd referendum with more choices, to get us out of this mess. There are many who don't want the short term pain for a maybe long term gain.

Farage is not afraid to speak out, whether you love or hate him is personal opinion, but do we really want a leader like Corbyn who rarely opens his mouth? Farage must have been under a lot of pressure at the European summit but still he had the courage to tell them they were out of touch. I think we have been under a lot of pressure at the European summit but still he had the courage to tell them they were out of touch. I think we have to look at what he says rather than the man

It is better to remain silent and risk being taken for a fool, than speak out and remove all doubt (variously Mark Twain and/or Abraham Lincoln)

No comment necessary

Yes. The party that promises another vote will get mine.

As a blinkered old granny I present for evidence a quote
"If we wish to make these social reforms, this must go hand in hand with the fight against the enemy of every social institution: ..... Here too we know that scientific knowledge can only be the groundwork, but that behind this knowledge must stand an organization which one day will be able to go over into action. And in this action we will remain adamant, which means: removal of .... from amongst our people (Loud and long sustained applause and clapping), not because we begrudge them their existence – we congratulate the rest of the world on account of their visits (great hilarity) – but because we value the existence of our own people a thousand times higher than that of an alien race. (Bravo!)"
The dots indicate a removed word the words are Jews and Jewry. It's a 1920s Hitler speech.
Change Jew to immigrant and you have Farage's policy. He may be appealing (not to me) but his policies are appalling.

Since Farage has achieved his aim will UKIP now disappear?

Lllie
At least we were given the choice to decide what we wanted by Cameron.
I think you will find that Cameron only did that in the Tory manifesto because of the Farage/UKIP threat

I have been in the UK for 60 years coming from one of the Commonwealth countries. The people here were the kindest and most welcoming. This is the first time I feel uneasy and very worried. This referendum has brought out the worst traits in the people.

Scary, isn't it? That speech was made in 1920 in the Munich Hofbrauhaus. At the time, Hitler only had a few hundred followers and he was thought of as a nutcase on the fringes.

@JillMay

I read somewhere that Arron Banks (one of Ukip's biggest donors) wants to move the party in a different direction and make it 'stronger'. I dread to think what he means.

Beammeupscottie the LibDems are campaigning for another vote.Please join us.

@daphnedill

The UK government has total control over immigrants from non-EU countries and always has, so it could make a rule that elderly parents could come to the UK.

It could, but it won't. Hence a feeling of unfairness in some quarters. Which I understand. I also understand your other points re how the system works at present.

A case of pleasing all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but not all of the people all of the time, inevitably.

He effectively voted himself out of a job. So why is he still allowed to have a platform. He doesn't represent the British public.