Theresa May

Apparently she is personally overseeing the obesity bill and removing anything she considers might be regarded as "nanny state". Never mind the experts then Theresa knows best.

I'd rather not be talked down to and told what to do by the government, so if she can remove any sort of patronising or dictatotial language from the bill without watering down its content, that's fine by me.

No it's the content that is going, won't be at all effective and will be a complete waste of legislation. Nothing to do with the language it's the substance she doesn't like.

Can't find anything about this in recent news - didn't we have a thread about the Obesity Bill last month? What's changed?

To be fair, I suppose, Cameron has done what he truly thought was for the best at the time. Hindsight makes things seem so easy.

Tegan do you mean the referendum as "the worst crisis since the Iraq war"?

Does that mean Syria doesn't count?

In my eyes it is. Meaning the effect it has had on 'this' country not other countries eg Syria.

Nah. We'll get through it. Doubt if ordinary folk will notice much difference tbh.

Not good to compare it with a war that killed and maimed thousands. To be honest. (Not meant unkindly)

I know what you mean jingle.It's just that I feel that both events, different as they are, will have an ongoing effect for a long long time. Point taken though. x

Yes. That is true.

Have you read ice Clegg's well written pieces about what needs to be done for the UK I to leave the EU and what it will mean for our trade - he has written two papers. Unfortunately I think that the population of the UK has little idea of what will hit it in the few years after we leave the EU -

But... tbh, we were alright before. (I voted stay in)

Welshwife do you have a link to the papers or could you tell me where they are as I would like to read them.

Clegg's 2nd paper on Brexit is a brilliant and readable 8-page description of the truck that's about to hit us

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Will look now for the first one.

The top line is from the tweet I copied to get the link - not me.
Sorry -have failed to find the first paper but will keep trying.

Thanks for that Welshwife.

The questions on PMQ about Grammar Schools hit home and May came over as just plain nasty when she didn't cope with them and then made a personal attack on Corbyn. We may not have had the measure of this women before but I feel we are getting it now.

Do you mean this bit gracesgran?

""This may be last time he has to face me across this despatch box, certainly if his MPs have anything to do with it"

Seems a reasonable thing to say.

I noticed the bit where she told him he shouldn't go back to the 50s, and then reminded him that they had both been to grammar schools, 50 years ago.
Bit of an own goal there, don't you think, Gracesgran?

I don't understand why either of them going to a grammar school influences the way they think. I went to a grammar school - because the choice was grammar school or secondary modern and I passed the 11+. That's what you did, and I went on to university because I was academic and not because of the amazing education I had - because it wasn't amazing, it was pedestrian and generally uninspired. What is more, having gone through the system I can see the way it created successes and failures at 11 - and we were all very well aware at 11 of the importance of the exams we were taking. So accusing Jeremy Corbyn of somehow being two-faced because, having gone to grammar school, he is against them is, at the very least, ridiculous.

I don't. She was pointing out that the system she's proposing will not be harking back to the 50s, despite both she and JC being products of that.

No, I wasn't Jbf.

Maybe she is thinking of resigning!

What I fail to understand is how her grammar schools are going to be 'inclusive' and different from the 50s. Selection means selection, which means excluding some, and you can't run a grammar school system without selection.

Unless her wizard wheeze is to call all schools 'grammar schools.