The New Cabinet

Not over rights to residence, but Sarkozy tried to remove our rights to heath cover and we were saved by the EU. We couldn't live here without health cover.
I don't think anyone has to be kind, just engage in sorting things out through diplomatic channels.

At least two years, possibly longer, for immigrants to be told that they do not have the right to live here any more, and they cannot disagree? Lots of them will go back home.

We are all in the same position DJ.

I know that, Mamie, but do you really want to be the last problem decided because you are such a useful tool in the negotiations?
It could be the first problem decided, but I doubt it would be as you are for bargaining with.

What I don't want is for the UK to guarantee that all EU citizens can definitely stay and then UK nationals promptly get ejected from all the other 27 countries. That is what Theresa May is saying she wants to avoid, in diplomatic language.
I don't think that scenario is likely, but the first duty of the British government is to protect British citizens.
Nobody likes it, it is worrying and unsettling for all of us.
I don't think there is any sense that it would be the last thing decided, I think the humanitarian view will prevail, but if things get nasty then anything could happen.
We are part of the negotiations whether we like it or not.

I think that the question of EU nationals and expats must be one of the easiest agreements to negotiate.
I am also sure that such agreements could be made outside of Brexit. All it needs is goodwill on all sides.
Just hope it is there.

Yes I think that is so. There are reciprocal arrangements about health cover that will be more complex (no two countries having the same system) though.

What did I read about property law?

durhamjen. Your word magnanimity: part of the definition of: free from petty resentfulness or vindictiveness.
Not what you showed when commenting on the people stuck in the queue on their way to Dover.

Following me around, petra, being petty?

All the stuff I can find about property law was just guesswork before Brexit.
Was there nothing on your course, whitewave?

Thats the trouble I cant remember where I read it. But I know there was a suggestion that property law may become an issue if ex - pats status changed.

durhamjen. just pointing out double standards

Just pointing out that you are following me round being petty. You must have a lot of time on your hands.

Do you actually have any views on the topic?

By the way, my son's wife is Spanish. I can't imagine both countries will consider doing swaps, can you?
I am assuming you don't mean that your British son should swap his wife for an English one who is at present married to a Spaniard?

(ps as J McE said, 'you can't be serious', no I'm not)

Strangely enough, both my sons first wives were born in England.
It would be interesting wouldn't it, if Spain told the English to go home and the UK told the Spanish to go home.
Where would they all live?

Is there a handy uninhabited island somewhere in between?
Somewhere with a perfect climate, fresh water, good soil .....

An uninhabited channel island, perhaps. What's the one that the Barclay twins control? I'm sure they would probably sell it for a few squillions.

Sark, but it's not uninhabited and the Barclays don't control it - ask any Sarkee!

The trouble is, we will all want to go there.
It could get a bit over-crowded

What's the official language of the new island
Esperanto?!

They just think they do, NOtTooOld.
(Your name takes much longer with my left hand, so if it ever looks as though I am shouting at you, I am not)

Would cause a major crash of property prices in some parts of Spain if all UK nationals ejected. Also major problems in parts of the UK economy.

I am not sure that they have recovered from the last crash Jess. I always have a look when we are there in winter and prices still seem low. Ours have never really recovered in France either and most houses round here seem to take a couple of years to sell. I suppose the only thing that might help would be if the pound is low against the euro people would get more money to move back.

What about dual nationality? Isn't that an option? A Scottish friend married to a German told me yesterday she has applied for German nationality. I have had dual nationality for years DH applied as soon as I arrived in Germany.

It is an emotional thing and some people feel so strongly that they can't do it. That same friend told me her son and Dil who work in London have said the would never take British nationality but always get Visas. There is an age difference of course. When young you feel you can move anywhere.

Sorry about that I didn't realise it had all been chewed over already.