Traingate

Yes, I just watched it, Jalima. Good, wasn't it?
I don't do butterfly walks usually. I sit on my wall and watch them on the buddleia. Although if I am walking the railway track, I will take a camera and take photos as well as counting them.
I have noticed a lot fewer this year compared to the last two.
That's what I was doing this afternoon. Two painted ladies and two peacock butterflies but just one small tortoiseshell. Normally I count those in the twenties, but this year the most I saw at any one time was six.
Then I deadheaded the buddleia to encourage the smaller flowers to bloom, just in case there are more out next month.

I wanted Prescott to be leader, he who cannot string a sentence together coherently?

(I may not be able to do so either, but I am not Deputy Leader of HM Government.)

He whose pronouncements on housing, bungalows in particular, has caused so many of the problems with older people downsizing thus enabling younger people to move up the housing ladder? He who was in charge of the disastrous Pathfinder project?

He who (oh, never mind, I will not gossip).

I am not speechless, but should be!!!

djen we only seemed to have a few cabbage whites this year - until recently when I saw a couple of tortoiseshells.
Then - the other day, I am sure I saw a blue butterfly when I was walking beside a country river. I thought I had imagined it, but I'm sure I didn't! It may have been a common blue.

sorry, I digress

I should plant another buddleia as mine split and died.

My sister's house in Hull was part of a pathfinder scheme, actually in Prescott's constituency.
All the preliminary work had been done, the builder had been chosen for the street, they'd had meetings and a timetable was drawn up.
Then in 2010 there was a change of government and the money was withdrawn from the council. Sorry, but that cannot be blamed on Prescott.

I admire John Prescott, it takes courage to put up with the ridicule and put downs because one is not able to speak eloquently, yet he did put up with it because he was dedicated to his political beliefs and his party

I spent a lot of my early life being laughed at for the way I spoke. Maybe that's why I have sympathy for Prescott. He did alright for himself, despite that.

sorry, I am an admirer of Pauline Prescott, she had to put up with a lot.
However, she stuck by him.

I am sure if I met him socially I would really like him!

speye.wordpress.com/2016/08/29/pay-more-to-stay-used-notes-brown-paper-bag/

How about this for housing policy, Jalima.

I too know what being mocked is like, fortunately not as a child , and like Prescott it has never stopped me from voicing my opinions . but it does take courage in my opinion

Are you two about to make up?

At last, something you agree on!

Durhamjen 13.36

So you say you are ' not bothered'. I am presuming in response to my question re why do Corbyn supporters deny there could be so much as a whiff of the old Militant group involved in Momentum.

That could be the truthful answer, not bothered.

As for your question 'Are there any militant members on the NEC '. There is no such party now but as you know the Momentum candidates have done very well recently. The link is a good reply to the question as it mentions Progress too.

labourlist.org/2016/08/clean-sweep-for-pro-corbyn-left-wingers-in-nec-elections/

There have been many reports on the fact there are calls for the likes of the Socialist Party et am to

I don't accept any long time party has no opinion iof Militancy in the party , either one is against it or for it,

POGS in answer to your question, I do not like to hear of deselection used as a threat by anyone, but it is a reality if the government goes to term and the boundary review is carried out, resulting in a reduction in the number of MPs. In that case there will never inevitably be a reselection process and I think it is understandable, given the degree of hostility that has been shown to JC by his parliamentary colleagues that his supporters might now speak out to remind them of this fact.

Thank you for your kind words. They are very much appreciated and reciprocated.

Sam Tarry (Momentum) is being investigated at the moment.He claimed to be a resident( with all that it entails) in Barking, and was duly appointed as a councillor there ( well paid) when in fact he lives with his wife who is a doctor, in Brighton ( reported in the Sunday papers) so if this allegation is true, he is a very iffy character that Corbyn would do well to steer clear of.

It says he rents out the flat in Barking to a woman who works in a trade union.
A conservative councillor did a similar thing the other year and got two months jail time, as it is fraud.

But night owl if as you believe it's understandable for MP's who have worked hard for their constituency for years but did't support Corbyn as leader because they didn't want the party to go back to the far left deserve to lose their seat? When some labour MP's voted against Iraq they kept their seats , all these threats have only emerged in the party since Corbyn became leader .

'Councillors are regularly investigated for not living in the area they represent. Last week Richard Smalley, formerly a Conservative member of Derby city council, was sentenced to two months in jail for falsely claiming to live in Derby.'

Just last week.

POGS, I'm not bothered about Militant and Momentum.
They never made any difference the last time, and they won't this time.
How many members are there?
How many members of Progress, which never seems to get a mention, apart from by me?
Rightwing Blairite Progress have definitely infiltrated the Labour party. They don't seem to bother you. Why not?

When the GMB asked for Progress to be outlawed, the response was
"We are a party that is reaching out to people, gaining new supporters and offering real change for the country in these tough times. The Labour Party is a broad church and we are not in the business of excluding people."
Labour leader Ed Miliband was also clearly in support, telling the Independent that “I believe in an open and inclusive party, reaching out to people, not for pushing people away. That certainly does not mean excluding or proscribing organisations like Progress which contribute to the debate."

In 2013, Len McCluskey, general secretary of Unite the Union, claimed Progress was manipulating the selection procedures for Labour parliamentary candidates to get its candidates selected. Progress responded: "Progress helps to train and mentor candidates going for selection, to whom we do not give money. The details are open, plainly explained on our website and approved by a strategy board elected by our members."

Strangely enough, it doesn't seem to apply to Momentum.

Progress was/is funded by Lord Sainsbury, who gave it £2 million out of its £3 million.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/08/29/labour-hit-hardest-boundary-changes-claims-of-gerrymandering_n_11757732.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

This isn't Corbyn's fault - even a Tory peer says so - but I'm sure he'll be blamed for it.
200 Labour seats affected by it.

According to the lights of the Corbyn team, Corbyn himself should have been deselected many a time for not supporting the party leader. And probably a few of his team too.

The fact that he/they were not shows the contrast between the Corbyn Intolerance Team and the Labour Party proper.

He would say that wouldn't he? IMO Len McCluskey is the reason behind this whole debacle when he started influencing the selection of Labour leaders.

Annie I didn't say I thought anyone deserved to lose their seat. I said I think it is understandable that Corbyn supporters might remind MPs that they will all face a reselection battle when the boundary changes come into force. This is a simple fact. If an MP has worked hard for their constituency and is well respected - as I'm sure many moderate labour MPs are - then I don't see why they should fear deselection. But neither do I think any MP should assume they have a job for life.

DJ your link, interrsting as it is, is not fact but just yet another person's opinion on the situation.