Traingate

What IS this Momentum?

prejudiced not prejudicial - my computer seems to want to write my posts as well as Annie ... conspiracy

I didn't put the CCTV footage on here myself, djen, I put a link to the BBC. I don't have access personally to the CCTV footage, only to the BBC website.

Pollengran I think it is fairly obvious from your posts that you are not Theresa May, please don't worry that we will get you mixed up, like her or not I would always say that she is eloquent and well-mannered and seems to have what is termed a gsoh.

Can't find any pro-Blair thread or posts by anniebach btw

Gracesgran, you said this has nothing to do with trains, it is about trains, privatising trains, filming a false account of a train journey etc. If he hadn't tried and failed with that false account we would not have this thread . Not an attack on Corbyn, no different to criticising lies by other politician, it's the lie I am angry about and what makes it even more hypocritical is he is standing on the honest politician pedestal, not a good example to his young followers who will not question the fact that it was a PR stunt which failed

What IS this Momentum?

Another gransnet left-wing poster trying to distance themselves from Momentum.

You have caught me out Jalima, I am not Theresa May . I assume anyone who is not a Corbyn supporter must be a Blairite. It seems obvious to me.

Jalima, I have never started a pro Blair thread, I have always said I would have voted for Brown if he and Blair had stood for leader. I have listed the good done by a labour government whilst Blair was PM when some alleged Labour Party supporters are proud to state they didn't vote for labour when Blair was leader , I did and I Certsintly do not regret if

Best not to assume Pollegrsn if it causes you to lie about a poster

Now that the GN Olympics is over, we have to have some threads to make us smile/giggle, surely?

And there have been plenty of posts that pointed out the ridiculousness of other politicians of all parties. Why should Jeremy Corbyn be exempt?
Especially when he sets himself up (or his advisers do).

Pollengran "What IS this Momentum?" If you genuinely don't know anything about Momentum, how can you post so vehemently about current politics?

Does this help? What is Momentum, and why is it worrying Labour MPs? or was your question a rhetorical one?

I am not a Corbyn supporter nor a Blairite; there are even more politicians and political parties from which to take your pick if you take a look, and they are not all to the extreme right!

Just a thought, I assume Corbyn supporters must be George Galloway, Livinstone, Hatton and Militant supporters

You have been angry for weeks Annie and have obviously decided that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a Corbyn supporter - wrong. They could just have an open mind.

I said this thread had nothing to do with trains but was another attack on Corbyn because that is my opinion. I could not have come to that opinion believing others so called lies as no one else is likely to comment on a Gransnet thread; certainly not Jeremy Corbyn or anyone to do with or supporting him.

You are so blinkered and because of this thrust views on others that they do not hold. I appreciate that you think you are right Annie but have reached the point where I feel there is no discussion unless we appear to agree with you. I could not, for instance, agree with one point and disagree with another as you would just attack the post. That's fine and doesn't bother me but it is very boring and I - just my personal opinion - think there are more important things to discuss.

As I said a few anti-Corbyn Grannies will not change the world but it would be nice to have a balanced discussion ... perhaps about how the trains are run.

Ridiculing politicians is a national pastime, one indulged in by some of the most politically active posters on this forum. Thank God for the freedom to do so without being flung into jail and left to rot.

I know anniebach

Corbyn or Blair, Corbyn or Blair, reminds me of that advert, 'which do you like best, Daddy or chips, Daddy or chips' ? CHIPS!

Oh for goodness sake, we wouldn't have Private Eye, Spitting Image, political cartoons etc etc without politicians!

Elegran is right.

Off to the Tower with anyone on here who dares laugh at a politician.

JC has now reached the point of being a person of national ridicule in my opinion.

I am thinking of leaving the Labour Party as their behaviour is beyond ridiculous, on both sides. The Tories behaviour has also been beyond ridiculous this year.

Looking at our political party members is is so depressing as few appear to have a balanced integrity and a level of honesty I expect from those in parliament.

I feel very gloomy.

Gracesgran a balanced thread about how the trains are (and were) run might be a good idea, however this is not the thread!

No Gracesgrsn, I am not blinkered , what difference between me disagreeing and other posters disagreeing? Are they too blinkered

Ps I have heard the term 'ram jam buttie' which may have been a term used in the Forces, DH told me how he had to sleep on the overhead luggage rack about 50+ yearsago because the overnight sleeper was so full (people asleep on the floor etc).

I am lying Anniebach?

I reserve judgement on the CCTV footage, and as I said at the beginning of this thread, I will change my opinion of Corbyn IF it is true. I will need more proof than that dished out by the BBC though.

Was anyone thinking of throwing people who ridicule politicians in jail and leaving them to rot Elegran? There seems to be a distinct lack of sense of proportion coming from some posters. I probably made one of the most critical comments about the Corbyn bashers who do not actually want to discuss anything and throw comments such as "believer of lies" (obviously no one who doesn't attack Corybn can have a view of their own) at anyone who doesn't absolutely agree with them and that was to say it was 'boring'; that seems a long way from throwing someone in jail!

Well said Elegran , why can we laugh at Boris but not Corbyn , get angry with Cameron but not Corbyn,

Yes Pollegrsn, you lied when you said I had started pro Blair threads , I have never done so