Channel 4 Dispatches - Momentum Party

Yes Ana some do believe it and some would rather lose the election And keep Corbyn as leader,

Only durhamjen has said that she thought he could win an election in 2020.

I cant see that there are many Corbyn voters who wont support him if he loses after 2020.

I was astounded to realise about 6 months ago, that policies trump opposing tory policies, no matter how bad they may be, and how much Corbyn voters protest about the NHS, education, war, etc. Everything.

There are more besides durhamjen?

That's why they think May might call an election, Ana.
Not the Labour party, the bookies. The Labour party don't call an election, Ana, in case you haven't realised. It's Theresa May that calls it.

I wonder how many people who'd had their membership taken away from them had tickets for that hall.

Did I say the Labour party would call an election? Did you actually read my post properly or is the euphoria still affecting you...?

Yes, that was what I meant by leader election euphoria - that anyone who thought Labour stood a cat in hell's chance of winning a GE next May must be delusional.

Wipe the slate clean Anniebach and start to unite the party you say you love. As you believe in democracy you now need to accept the decision and begin to post things about the policies and not individuals.

Only Corbyn can unite the party and he has no wish to

Stop being silly, Ana. I know you like to contradict everything I say but you are confusing yourself now.

I said that the bookies think May will call an election next May, simply because she will think the Labour party can't win.
There's no leader election euphoria.

No, Annie, the membership needs to unite behind Corbyn.
Over 60% of them have; what about you?

durhamjen I know what you said. And I replied to it.

The fact that you couldn't understand my post is not my fault - as I say, euphoria must still have you in its grip. Anyone who thinks Labour would win a May election (called by Theresa May, of course) must be delusional.

Clear enough for you?

New members joining because of Corbyn winning.

inews.co.uk/opinion/jeremy-corbyns-re-election-important-victory-democracy/

Do you have some secret communication with Corbyn Anniebach? If not how can you know that he has no wish to unite the party. He has constantly said that is what he wants. Disbelieve him by all means but post this as such not as a statement of fact.
You noticed that the hall at conference was half empty, did you also see that the momentum event was absolutely packed? Something must be going on there!

Yes the Momentum hall was packed, the communist party were displaying banners pushing for deselection of MP's , sure way to unite the party.

If Corbyn was to cut away from Momentum I would consider believing what he says .

My comments on the half empty hall was just expressing my sadness on the split in the party , do not tell me what and how to post please

Biggest mistake some of the PLPs made in challenging Corbyns leadership. Instead of him loosing he has regained the leadership with a bigger majority and attracted even more people to the Labour Party.

It is now the biggest political party in Europe. If you believe those critical of Corbyn all the new members are communists or old trots.

McDonald refuses to apologise for saying Esther McVay was a stain on humanity and should be lynched .

Expect it was just a joke

Are you sure you are a member of the labour party, Annie?

Esther McVey is responsible for Tory cuts to benefits. You think he should apologise to someone who has made life a lot harder for those you purport to support?
There are going to be a lot more homeless and visiting foodbanks because of her.

annie how about trying to find stuff that the Labour Party can agree on? The point is it simply isn't going to work and be a credible opposition to this ragbag of a government if we don't come together we have much more in common than not. So much stuff this government is doing or not doing is an open goal and such easy meat.

The differences can be gradually worked out over the next few years, there is no rush and quiet debate and chat will achieve almost certainly something we can all live with. By arguing like we are we are simply giving joy to the Tories.

because on this forum a calm discussion seems impossible . I am disgusted that those remarks were made about McVey - and I rejoiced when she lost her seat - but this easy talk of rape and lynching is wrong .

I also cannot agree that Corbyn is the only MP who is concerned for the vunerable, much of his policies have always been the policies of the party,.

I really do not believe the party can come together untill BOTH sides work together

What do you suggest happens then annie in order for you to begin to talk to your friends again?

I am absolutely willing to talk with you. What needs to happen is to sweep the floor clean -accept that stuff was said on both sides for which we can all feel sore about - but accept that it is time to grow up and push on forward.

Nobody has said that Corbyn is the only MP who is concerned for the vulnerable. I know he isn't. I know lots are. But oughtn't you to be discussing how the labour party can work together, rather than just saying they can't.

They are going to be united against grammar schools.
Anyone who doesn't agree with him on the NHS possibly shouldn't pretend to be a labour MP.

The Message is not the problem; it is the Messenger. Corbyn is not a leader. End of story.

An awful lot of people disagree with you Beam that's why he was elected. Would you like to say why you don't think he is a leader or is it the usual unjustifiable prejudice?

beam that may eventually prove to be true, we don't yet know given what Corbyn has had to battle against this past year. Given the sort of support one would expect from the party MPs who knows what he would have achieved? but we are where we are, and it is time to begin to do the job people elected the MPs for and that is opposing the Tories, and to begin to put all our energies into providing a united front.