Channel 4 Dispatches - Momentum Party

That's ok ehite wave, it just makes me so cross when good labour MP's are mocked . I recall some time ago a different poster defending the militants in Liverpool accused Glenys Kinnock and those with her of behaving like Winnie Mandela, I was there and it was so untrue. Joe Cox chose to work for Glenys , would she hove done if Glenys had been anything else but a decent woman . Anyway it's the past .

Wasn't mocking Kinnock at all, any more than you were mocking Foot for losing an election.

Richard Murphy talking at the Labour Party conference tomorrow on the Fair Tax mark.

After seeing the Labour first meeting on the news I have decided to give them my support.

Derek Hatton is at the party conference, no surprise there

www.change.org/p/greater-manchester-fire-rescue-service-stand-with-manchester-firefighters-no-to-mass-dismissals

All Labour Party members should want to sign this.

Manchester are going to sack all their firefighters and only take back those who will sign up to twelve hour shifts.

I thought you didn't agree with groups within groups, Annie.
We can now truly call you right wing labour rather than socialist.

The police have been doing 12 hour shifts for quite a long time.

And nurses.

I will reply this once to you durhamjen even thought I hsve respected your wishes and not replied to your post. You can call me right wing Labour if you choose , truth has nothing to do with it though . Satisfied your goading has finally earned you a response? How sad , So very McDonald though, you have certainly learned from a master of ?

Having worked 12 hour shifts, day and night, for 12 years I would say they are unsafe and should be phased out rather than introduced. And if posts are being slashed it suggests cover is being reduced, which is even more dangerous.

I sgree, 12 hour shifts are wrong, more so in the fire service , i msy have this wrong, is it the decision of the council I think a councillor claimed it was caused by the cut backs by the government

Caused by government cuts but it's still the council, a Labour council, that is sacking its workers and only reemploying those who will agree to the new conditions.
Remind you of anyone?

Hope you never have to be saved by a fireman at the end of his shift, roses.
The FBU are saying the same as the BMA, unfair and unsafe.

Derek Hatton , the very well known Militant

Just returned from the old US of A where I fear from conversations I overheard we could end up with Trump in the Residence. Also, never met a single person, either from the States or elsewhere in the world, who felt our vote for Brexit was a good idea. Asked repeatedly why we did it. What else could we reply but Immigration, immigration, immigration.
Now we have JC back at the helm. Well, I believe in democracy so must live with that reality. He tells me he will wipe the slate clean and unite the party. I will await that outcome. In the meantime all the LP gets is my basic subscription, taken off Direct Debit, and no more, until I see proof of unity and real leadership. He now needs to reach out to the wider electorate, the ones who really matter at election time, who were not involved in this leadership election and convince them. Interesting days ahead I feel. It helps pass those dark nights in October through to April. I am encouraged by our new hierarchy to get more active. Believe me, I will.

Careful, Annie. You've responded again. You're beginning to make a habit of it.

Unfortunately, Devorgilla, it's Theresa May at the helm.

Yes, dj, I know it is Theresa at the helm. That's why we need a really first class opposition. You tell me it is JC. The political 'shooting season' is just beginning for this year. He had better be up to the job and uniting the party. The ball is in his court. He has to lure the moderates back not them coming on 'bended knee' as I read today. How establishment is that!

Just listening to a woman from Momentum speaking on anti semitism she said - we now have the most anti racist leader ever . How can one be the most anti racist? One is either anti racist or racist, stupid woman, has she forgotten calling a woman a bigot helped cost Brown the election , and Corbyn is snubbing MP's to give this stupid women a vote on who should be in the shadow cabinet

Suppose she believes one can be a little bit pregnant

Hi Devo, nice to see you back, could have done without the cheery Trump comment

Corbyn is gun fire proof, he stays behind bullet proof protection

Nice of you, Annie. He wants to give you a vote on who should be in the shadow cabinet, too. You are a woman, are you not? How should he differentiate between her and you?

There are actually quite a few stupid MPs. How should he differentiate? Should they have to pass the exam on the British constitution in order to have a vote?

Devorgilla, did you read the article by Andy Burnham, saying that the PLP never gave Corbyn a day's grace after he was elec ted last year?
They haven't given him a chance this day either. It seems they only will if he goes to them on bended knee.
What's wrong with them having a third each?

Last year he gave front bench jobs to the rebels. They plotted against him from the first day.
Why should he do so again?

Yes, AB, I did notice the heavies getting into the lift with him at Conference.

In fairness to JC I do not believe he himself gets involved in any shenanigans. Can't say the same about everyone he surrounds himself with. Half a million people? Only an idiot would think they are all of the 'honest, kind and gentler politics.

I think he is sly Devo, he dodged full campaigning during the Brexit campaign because he wanted out , has said so often enough.

It is said McDonald is the power behind him , perhaps sly is unkind, not sure, but McDonald's puppet

Half a million? So he only needs to win another 11 or 12 million votes and he gets the key to no 10