Channel 4 Dispatches - Momentum Party

Yes, perhaps we need re-educating.

Which station are you watching.

By all means I will be glad to hear your comments on the texts you receive annie

I was just hoping to hear your comments on the Leaders speech.

The texts I received were on Corbyns speech

Not the same as watching it.

I thought he was very brave to say what he did about immigration.

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This is interesting, a text sent to someone who was not a Corbyn supporter.
It didn't work, though. The hall looked full to me, and there was an overspill.

Brave my eye! He's hardly going to be worried about being criticised by any of his adoring fans, is he? And he doesn't seem to care about anyone else.

Did you watch it?

Brave? he wasn't going to be shouted down, big difference in the power of his speech today than any interview he gives. He was as usual protected.

There was overspill, the momentum hall was empty because the cult moved to the conference hall to create the overspill, it was stage set as all his momentum rallies are, some leaders speech where most of the M.P's left the hall before the messiah climbed down his mountain to give his words of wisdom to the country

You didn't watch it either, did you?

How was he protected on a stage all on his own? Anyone could have shouted out anything they wanted.
Everyone seems to be saying his speech was good and the delivery was good.

A fairer country in a peaceful world.
What's not to like.

He was hardly likely to be heckled by his fan-club, was he?

The momentum hall was empty because they were there to listen to his speech. Isn't that what they were there for? Isn't that what you were there for whenever you went? To listen to the leader's speech?
Sad that you have to criticise them for that.

When I went to the conferences I was a party member and applied for my ticket. Those in the hall had to have tickets, the overspill was from the momentum conference hall, this is why there was an overspill, it was stage set. Dear god ,how can intelligent people be so taken in

A fairer country in a peaceful world. There we are, all problems sorted in an afternoon .

500 billion will be borrowed, this will bring voters over to Labour, and no matter the number of immigrants who moved to overcrowded cities, Jez will give extra money to dupport them , snother vote winner - not

He is garnering UKIP voters without UKIP having to do a thing.

When is this idiot man going to realise all cities are not like London, different people, different way of life

You don't look at voxpolitical, I know, but the link is revealing.
You seem to think that only momentum plot. However it shows the rightwingers do.
Their plan was to have taken lots of tickets for the centre of the hall and not turn up, so it would look like the hall was empty.

'So the right-wingers at the Labour Conference want to keep people out of the hall when Jeremy Corbyn is delivering his speech in order to make it seem as though he has no supporters.

After nearly 62 per cent of voters in the Labour Party gave him a landslide victory in a leadership election?

Wow.

And these are the people who are going to lead us to general election victory?

Please, if you’re attending conference, make sure this silly idea fails to get past the lobby.

If there’s a “shortage of tickets” and you’re told you can’t go in – demand proof that the hall is full. If it isn’t, then kick up a stink about it. Humiliate everybody involved – starting with the person who tried to stop you getting in. Demand to know who told them to do it, and then drag that person into it too. Go right up the chain until you find the ringleaders and expose them.

And tell every mainstream media hack about it, as well.

Then take your seat and enjoy the speech.'

If the Labour party doesn't stand up for immigrants, Annie, who will?
Your posts are getting sadder and sadder.

Jen, face facts please.

To help those who need help labour has to win power.

The msjority of the country do not want more immigrants,

They will vote for UKIP.

Yes immigrants work in hospitals but not thousands and thousands .

This is facing facts Jen, do you want to keep the children already living in poverty in poverty?

I am facing the reality of politics , you have to win the votes to form a government

Jen, to obtain a ticket one has to apply, are you now claiming Labour Party staff were on a scam to keep the hall half empty, grow up Jen please,nyou are being fooled and used

I had my invite to apply for my ticket months ago , this is how it is done.

You ought to get your facts right before you tell me to face facts.

fullfact.org/immigration/immigration-and-nhs-staff/

This is just EU. 10% of our doctors come from the EU.
55,000 staff from other EU countries.
Migrants haven't put a strain on the NHS, but they would do if they all left.

About a quarter of doctors come from abroad. Hope they don't all go back where they came from.

According to the King's Fund, 20% of NHS staff are foreign born. Might please some if they all went home, particularly Jeremy Hunt.

So all immigrants in the NHS arrived in this country recently and all still to arrive will all work in the NHS?

Why the accusation that employers are paying immigrants below the mimimum wage ?

The NHS does not pay below the minimum wage

Sorry but the NHS card has been played too often

We have two doctors in Our surgery, who are immigrants ,one from India , one from India , both been here over twenty years

Well you'd be in a mess if they went elsewhere wouldn't you AB? You seem to be losing the plot a bit here.
There is a great deal of muddled thinking about immigrants, EU migrants, asylum seekers, refugees, and people whose families have been living here a while, who don't have white faces. The far right would like to get rid of all of them.
Surely what we need is an immigration system that meets the needs of the economy and the NHS, plus a government that makes sure that any negative impacts are mitigated (such as overcrowded schools or maternity wards). If we could have a system that also helped more than a tiny number of refugees from Syria etc that would also be a good thing, don't you think?
Seems we have the first but not the others at the moment. If there is pressure on school places (in a very few areas) then having a government that destroying LAs in England and preventing them from building ANY new schools is not helping is it? Neither is a government that is starving the NHS of money and getting rid of bursaries for nurses and midwives.

Jess, I was speaking immigrants and free movement not refugees.