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The whole policy is disgusting. My son was 6ft tall at the age of 14. I wonder what he would have been classed as? Luckily he grew up in a safe country and didn't need to find a safe place to live. I don't care if these are young men in their early 20s, if they have family here who are prepared to care for them they should be allowed in. It doesn't matter if they are from Afghanistan, Sudan, Syria or Yemen or anywhere else all have seen countries torn apart by war whilst they were growing up and we have a duty of care towards them.

Whilst I appreciate it is rather difficult to tell whether someone is 14 or 18, surely it is quite easy to tell whether someone is 14 or 38? I have to say that looking at some of the photos there are more than one or two that look older than my 36 year old son!

Still can't understand why there are no girls among them.

But what about the younger ones? Why do we only seem to be taking older, male teenagers?

I don't think its anything to do with height trisher my cousins son is over 6ft but he looks like a 15 year old.

Do these "children" have to attend school? Wouldn't you want to be sure that the 14 year old was indeed 14 and not in his 30's?

Maybe because they all seem to be older males that have come? I don't know.

Males are sent away first because they are most likely to be killed, and they are expected to send for the rest of the family as soon as they can. They then lose touch, their family are killed or they can't be located and the boys are alone. Girls are kept with their families for protection, but also girls would probably be veiled and not want to be filmed anyway so not such a good photo opportunity. If one was of the conspiracy theory mind one might think this first group had been deliberately chosen to cause as much outrage as possible.

We haven't taken any girls though have we? If there are unaccompanied very young children surely they should be a priority and foster homes found for them?

Is it that trisher or is it that its easier for the males to get away?

I would imagine older children are easier to process, more likely to speak English, more likely to answer questions, more likely to have kept their passports/papers. Sometimes young children are difficult to interview anyway never mind ones traumatised by war. We should just have said all children under a certain age can come in without being cross examined.

Lets face it non of these countries have got reputations for treating boys and girls equally have they?

One of the photos used was of a translator not a refugee by the way.

What on earth has that got to do with it gillybob?

But there are older children 14,15,16,17 and there are older children 32,33,34,35 etc. I don't want to sound spiteful but some of these cases are really very suspicious.

Because it seems to be only males that have the chance to be "saved" and the girls are left behind to suffer whatever.

Have you spoken to any refugees? I talked to a young man from Sudan he was devastated and missed his family but said he would almost certainly be dead if he had stayed. He was seeking asylum and had been moved up to the NE whilst he was processed. He wanted to go back but couldn't, he wanted his family to join him but knew they probably wouldn't be able to. It is a sort of hell and no economic benefit would make up for the heartbreak.

I saw the photo of the translator (or at least, one of them) and it was clearly captioned.

As far as girls are concerned the families often feel that the fate they will suffer if they are sent away is similar to that they will suffer if they stay. And given the cases of child abduction, rape, and people trafficking that we know go on who is to say they are wrong?

I haven't spoken to any refugees recently trisher. Maybe the young man to which you refer might have been disappointed to be sent to the NE while he was processed and that was why he wished he could go home. Might have been a different story if he had been sent to a wealthier part of the UK.

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/10/19/the-response-to-child-refugees-arriving-in-the-uk-shows-how

Shows how low we have sunk.
As someone on www.citizensuk.org said

'Why should age matter? We are in the midst of a humanitarian crisis for gods sake. They are all refugees and the UK could easily accommodate the whole of the Calais jungle. I see no problem with letting them all in and the people of the UK will make them feel very welcome. UK is 5th largest economy in the world and can easily afford it. Housing need not be a problem and I support the private members bill to encourage all social tenants on benefits to take in at least 2 refugees or risk losing their homes. Once Calais is empty we can then make a start on the camps in Lebanon and the displaced people fleeing Mosul can also be accommodated here. We are leaving the eu and it's no one else's business. If the objecting taxpayers don't like it then they should move to another country.'

Yes, it would be great if we could take them all durhamjen but where are they going to live? Are they going to work? If so, where? Where will the children go to school? How will the NHS cope? etc.

How on earth can you expect ordinary people to take refugees (or any strangers for that matter) into their home? I have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. Personally I am not a good sleeper to start with,but I would never close my eyes if I had 2 grown men that I knew nothing about sleeping in the room next door. There is no way I would let my DGC even visit here if that were the case.

Disgusting that David Davis is promoting this.
I think you are getting David Davis mixed up with David Davies
The MP who put the odious Piers Morgan to task this morning.

durhamjen That's got to be a joke, surely? And no, they are not all refugees.
I'd love to see the faces of social housing tenants in some areas here in southend if they were given that altimatum. If it wasn't so serious if would be laughable.

Idiotic article!! Nobody in their right mind would take complete strangers into their homes, probably why Yvette Cooper, and others who apparently had a spare room had a change of heart when push came to shove!!!

The mean-spirited British still wouldn't have allowed them to come to the UK though.
I really object to that remark very strongly daphnedil but I will make allowances because perhaps you are too young to know any better.
I never knew my FIL and DH grew up without him from the age of 4 because he died for our freedom and for yours too - and to save as many people of many nationalities as he could from Hitler.

Shame on you is a term bandied around these threads for very little reason, but this time this is what I feel

Hope you've already volunteered to take a few, durhamjen! What a ridiculous quote from that 'someone'.