clinton v trump

I don't want to derail into Brexit but I do think our defence matters with Putin straining at the leash

I'm concerned about his attitude to NATO ( as well as everything else) - we need Europe more

I stopped watching at 4.00 a,m, when I found myself shouting at the idiot who said that it was just media spin about Trump building a wall.

At least Brexiteers know they are no longer the most stupid people in the world.

nina we are on bad day for the world thread

He's been declared winner
Who else finds that scary?

Anyone else up watching the election?

I know ana

Not with either of these two (three counting Putin) there isn't!

jalima no!!! But there is a medium way. Sense and wisdom would be two good qualities.

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Obviously Trump supporters think they won't be affected.

so, as Trump is good friends with Putin, would that be better for the world in general do you think?
If not for America

is this the best they can find

Trump would be a disaster, but I am also feeling wobbly about Clinton as I was reading that her and Putin absolutely hate and detest each other. That worries me over the Middle East etc.

Well, that would be another pay cheque for him to cash in whilst not actually turning up for work or doing anything.

I have found the words!

That is beyond parody

And now Farage wants to be President Trump's EU ambassador!
Is that true??
I am lost for words!

I m afraid I don't think it will make interesting times Whitewave I think you ll need to be very very afraid

What's a high rate of unemployment, grannypiper?
It's the same as the UK, 4.9%, and has been for longer than the UK.

Black Americans are as fed up as white Americans with high rates of unemployment. Supporting anyone who has the backing of the KKK is just unacceptable on any level.

Not at all Anniebach, it is such a sweeping statement ( and i have been told off for them) to say any Trump voter is uneducated racist, yes the kkk back him but a lot of Americans are sick to death of high rates of unemployment that they feel they have to try and change the downward spiral of their country much like supposedly ignorant brexit voters here in the U.K

granny piper may have a point in saying not all Leave or Trump voters are racist, ignorant neo nazi's. Sadly, every racist, ignorant neo nazi around will vote Trump (and many would have voted Leave)

grannypiper, the KKK has endorsed Trump , what appeals to them must also appeal to any Trump voter surely?

@lewlew

Didn't they try that once before - I think it was called the Civil War.

I suppose the west and east coasts could declare independence and build a big wall round the rest.

Well said, Anya. And now Farage wants to be President Trump's EU ambassador! Maybe he's realising how much he'd miss Guy Verhofstadt.

DH will be staying up all night! I need my sleep though, so won't be.He will be bad tempered if Trump wins.

Anya If I didn't, I'd cry!