clinton v trump

I hope Americans take notice of their expert economists.

online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/EconomistLetter11012016.pdf

I apologise Jen, mixed up your words - being shot was not

I didn't, Annie. Where did I say "she"?

Do not refer to me as she please Jen. I said it , I did not say he should be shot, I voiced my fear that it would quite possibly happen.

Is that what I was doing, POGS? I thought I was just querying dual standards, where someone else who mentioned Trump being shot was not castigated.

These two contestants would appear to be neck and neck!!! Are we staring at President Trump?!

His pet peeve with Trump is his denial of climate change. I think DA was using irony... I think he well had in mind that Trump suggested the 2nd Amenders 'take care' of Clinton. However, am surprised DA would stoop to Trump's level even as a joke.

A quip about Trump's coastal Marlago Florida mansion, which could soon be under water due to climate change, might have been actually humorous... and true (my SIL worries about theirs)!

Sorry durhamjen your deflective tactic won't wash.

I repeat I do not care who, when , where or why somebody says such a crass thing and I think just as little of those who feel in tune with such a disgusting rhetoric, or in tune with those who send death threats and abuse through social media .

Blabbing on about posts that I have missed or a Newsight program that I didn't watch is of no relevance, apart from you trying to deflect my response to your post .

www.google.com/url?q=http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/09/erm-did-donald-trump-just-encourage-people-to-shoot-hillary-clinton-6058170/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwinm_Kf34jQAhWGWBoKHS3oDggQFggIMAE&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNGPplFwuUZyEULfdiGxg0kvYnM10A

Trump encouraging people to shoot Clinton.

What a strange thing for Attenborough to say
Trump is awful, but Republicans have to vote for somebody and there can't be millions willing to vote for Hilary or any Democrat ( maybe some will abstain?)
She is the safe option ( the only option!) fingers crossed she will win.?

'I think if Trump did become president he will be given the same treatment as JFK , bang'

Who said this, on this thread?
You did not complain then.

It was actually said on Newsnight in an interview with Emily Maitliss.
When Trump said it on cameral, actually suggesting that those with guns do the same to Clinton, did you complain loudly?
I can't recall. Can you?

Durhamjen

I don't give a toss who said such a thing, it's vile and I don't condone it being said by anyone, nobody should.

I remain in despair of people who are apparently happy to talk that way, use the internet to post death threats or people who can simply find the death of another person fair game. We see and hear of it all too often.

I repeat , it says more about the person prepared to find such crassness worth saying or believing it is appropriate behaviour.

I hope this is in US papers as well as ours.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-taxes-us-election-2016-casino-avoidance-scheme-a7390631.html

You appear to have forgotten that Trump suggested the same about Clinton.
Short memories....

He does seem to be expressing some odd views in his old age...

Good grief what a vile comment.

Says as much about the person who says such a thing in my opinion, couldn't care less if it was David Attenborough or not.

So much horrible, nasty rhetoric about. Death threats, talking of killing people is not acceptable , full stop.

Nobody learns any lessons do they.

Lewlew, David Attenborough suggested that Trump could be shot as he likes guns so much.

"Asked how he would feel about America electing a president like Mr Trump who believed that climate chnge is a 'Chinese hoax', Sir David Attenborough said, 'Well, we lived through that with earlier presidents - they've been equally guilty...
We could shoot him. It's not a bad idea...' "

Thanks for the posts durhamjen and willa45 I didn't see the Michael Moore programme. I remember him well from the Bush years. (They almost seem nostalgic in light of what is going on now).

Wonder if the Manafort issue will make the news later today.

Am thinking now, what sane person would ever want to run for POTUS in the future. Hillary supporters will worry about assassination and Trump's about impeachment!

Too weird for me.

Atleast the FBI are trying to be evenhanded now.

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-making-inquiry-ex-trump-campaign-manager-s-foreign-ties-n675881

The foreign ties are to Russia.

This whole FBI/Comey email 'investigation', only proves that Misogyny is alive and well. Never mind that the male candidate Trump is still awaiting trial for fraud, child rape and some 73 lawsuits that are pending against him, the FBI instead chooses to make a big deal out of a bunch of emails that the woman candidate, Clinton never even sent! Thankfully, her supporters are saavy enough to recognize BS when they see it. Voters know that this is a (lame) eleventh hour attempt aimed at giving Trump a boost. It should be noted that Hillary is still leading in all the polls that count!!

Did you watch Michael Moore?
I hope he got a few to change their minds about voting for Trump. Ohio is Trumpland. It was a very informative programme.

The reason Trump will win, is Hilary Clinton!

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/201610/medium-87125-gun1.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/201610/medium-885807-open-carry-states.jpg

Loving these posts... and the videos and quotes.

Just reading about the Dunning-Kruger effect.

It describes the cognitive bias whereby incompetent people are so incompetent that they don't realise how incompetent they are.

That's a keeper Whitewave!

About the young unemployed... unemployment is at an all time low in the US. Traditional Republican voters go for the philosophy of lower taxes for the rich, gun freedom (you can openly carry guns in many states), and then the special interests of the religious right. There may be others, but these come to mind.

But, if in individual states, Republicans can just hold onto their seats, getting their voters to keep (or put them in), but not vote for Trump, I think that is the current vibe. You don't vote all party, you can pick and choose right down to your local town/county from any party's candidates. So many Republicans are 'holding their noses' and voting for Clinton.

I bet Obama is kicking himself for appoint Comey. His reasons for appointing a Republican FBI director (in 2013) were maybe Republicans in Congress were more likely to confirm a Republican, and Comey was against the Bush administration's unrestricted wiretapping programme.

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-james-comey-surveillance_us_5814f125e4b0390e69d0aa65

Guns, guns and more guns.... see two images attached. Map and a woman in a grocery store.

www.joe.ie/movies-tv/michael-moores-donald-trump-documentary-will-be-on-tv-this-evening/565541

This is quite disturbing.