Jo Cox Assassin convicted

No idea Daphne, difficult question , I have spoken of someone I cared deeply for being kicked to death by prison guards in Pretoria prison, these people had been born in a country where black people were seen as sub human so it was their upbringing, their country's laws which led to this . It took me a long time to accept , I just saw racists but over time I accepted it was much more

It is exactly what I said bags

To put it in even simpler terms, not all murderes and assassins are mentally ill. Not all murderers are psychopaths.

And the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness feel no urge to commit violent crimes.

And being a psychopath or sociopath is not considered to be a mental illness.

Thought I ought to make all my points separately to avoid further confusion.

So no need to place psychopaths who have committed murder in a prison hospital

I haven't read one post which claims the overwhelming majority of people with mental illnesses commit murder Anya

I have no idea if the man in this murder case was mentally ill , none of us do, I can accept it is a possibility it may be true , may be true not is true

So after putting words into my mouth that I didn't say, your point is AB????

Anya didn't say that the overwhelming majority of people with a mental illness commit murder. \she said quite the opposite.

"And the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness feel no urge to commit violent crimes"

Thanks Shanma

@Anniebach

Racism isn't rational, nor is it a mental illness.

Jo Cox's murderer is a racist and has been for all his adult life, according to the evidence presented during the trial.

I don't see him as significantly different from the people who join IS, so maybe the government's Prevent strategy should be used (whatever it is). I don't dispute that his background made him vulnerable to radicalisation - in this case by white supremacist/Nazi influences. That doesn't make him mentally ill.

Maybe the DM tried to suggest that the 'blame' was with his local authority and MP, because it doesn't want to acknowledge its own role in stoking up hatred and encouraging racism and hatred. I see the DM is now trying to 'blame' the Home Office for not realising that Mair held extreme racist views for 30 years.

I suspect that people who are racist do 'rationalise' their racially based prejudices. Not saying I understand the process, but I suspect that those racists who think can give what they regard as rationalisations of their choices.

Not all racists are criminals.

No, they're not and not all people with mental health problems are criminals either.

So, if neither racism nor mental health problems flag up a potential murderer, how would you suggest Jo Cox's murder could have been prevented?

Maybe you agree with the DM and think that he was (allegedly, according to third hand witnesses) harassed by his local authority and not helped by his MP for living in a council house which was too big for his needs. Do you happen to know of any mental illness which explains such an action? I'm afraid I don't.

Are you asking me, dd?

I haven't read anything the DM has said about the case. My comments were completely detached and objective. I was simply stating what I think are true facts.

I nearly posted another comment saying "Cue outrage" but decided not to.

Yes, they do rationalise their racism. I know they do, but their rationalisation is distorted. It can't be 'cured' by any rational process. Mair is a loser, who turned to racism, because it made it seem as though there are people below him in the pecking order. Racism and xenophobia are supported and stirred up by the tabloid gutter press.

So, just to make sure you know: I'm not justifying murder.

If the thought that I might be crossed your mind, I think you need to wash your brain out and go for some calming down lessons.

If you haven't read the DM, I suggest you do, so that you can see how sick it is.

Sorry, I'm not going to contribute any more, because I don't think it's worth it.

Of course the ralionalisations of people who commit murder are distorted and the other things you say are true too, as you would realise if you didn't read more into my post than it said.

I don't give a fuck about Mair except to be glad he's locked up.

I mean as you would realise I already know without reading any crap in a newspaper.

Do you agree with James O'Brien, bags?

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/jo-cox-murderer-page-30-daily-mail-james-obrien/

You could say he read the DM so you don't have to.

There are lots of sick people in this country.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/26/jo-coxs-was-followed-by-50000-tweets-celebrating-her-death

www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/nick/thomas-mair-far-right-terrorist-5072

I agree, there are sick minded people in this country, how many female MP's have received death threats