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What is Populism

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whitewave Fri 06-Jan-17 17:31:47

About 2 years ago on here we mentioned the worrying rise of the populist right, and have gradually seen evidence of this with it culminating in the Trump election.

So I have been trying to get to grips and doing some reading to try to establish what exactly a populist party looks like and it's fundamental philosophies.

We know of populist party leaders:- Trump, Le Pen, Hoffer, Wilders and Farage amongst others.

Whilst they each represent a slightly different version, I think we can identify 3 main characteristics

Anti-establishment
Authoritarian
Nationalist.

Anti establishment because
It is a philosophy that emphasises faith in the wisdom and virtue of ordinary people as opposed to the "corrupt" establishment. There is a deep cynicism and resentment against the existing authorities

So you have

People -good
Elites - bad

Authoritarian because
It's leanings feature the personal power of one leader who is thought to reflect the will of the people

Nationalist/ xenophobic nationalism because
It tends to assume that people are a uniform whole, and favours mono-culturalism over multi-culturalism
Favours national self interest over international cooperation and development aid
Favours closed borders over the free flow of people and ideas, as well as capital, goods and labour
Finally favours Traditionalism over progressive liberal values.

So we have witnessed the rhetoric which seeks to stir up a potent mix of racial resentment, intolerance of multiculturalism, nationalist isolationism, misogyny and sexism. There is strong-man leadership and attack dog politics.

Populism therefore can be described as xenophobic authoritarianism.

POGS Mon 16-Jan-17 12:23:22

I should have said of course they are not!

My point is using or trying to put the time and place, the use of using the words populist/populism into a nut shell is possibly one of those subjects that will never be fully answered no matter how much we try. The scope is too wide.

Ankers Mon 16-Jan-17 16:31:01

USA seems to have a history of nepotism. It doesnt mean it is right, but the american voters seem to be quite comfortable with it.

varian Tue 17-Jan-17 16:19:01

I think the OP was pretty accurate in defining populism as Anti-establishment, Authoritarian and Nationalist.

However I would add - Irrational (preference for emotion, usually negative emotion, over knowledge and logic.) Also Dishonest (facts are rejected in favour of lies - you can fool quite a lot of the people quite a lot of the time).

Although I generally dislike jargon, I do think "post-truth" is an accurate expression for the populist messages which seem to have taken hold.

Araabra Tue 17-Jan-17 17:44:56

USA nepotism hearkens back to Adams, Roosevelt, Kennedy, Bush, Clinton. This is not new news.

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 17:47:54

araabra I don't think anyone will argue with you in that one. But this thread isn't about that. However if you wish it to be.........

daphnedill Tue 17-Jan-17 17:57:43

I agree with you, varian. It seems that thought processes based on the Enlightenment have been abandoned.

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 18:07:25

dd I am beginning to be resigned as I've said on another thread that there is a definite lurch to the right. I just hope it doesn't last too long.

There was a political and fictional author on the radio this morning, who was actually talking about Trump and his election. I can't exactly remember all he said, but he was taken with the crassness and vulgarity of Trump, and the fact that so many in the Bible Belt voted for him. However on an optimistic note he argued that Trumps vulgarity wil only be accepted for a short time and people of the conservative Christian community will very soon begin to reject Trump.

Araabra Tue 17-Jan-17 18:20:24

Perhaps those in the Bible Belt care less about vulgarity and more about living wages and reform? Friends in the US comment on how low US wages are comparable to high costs.

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 18:22:43

Perhaps ara. But only time will tell if his billionaire team are able to deliver.

Araabra Tue 17-Jan-17 18:28:17

His supporters are counting on some positive change in lifestyle. But as you say, can he deliver? My US based friends hope he can reform the medical plan and wages by end January. wink

Ankers Tue 17-Jan-17 18:51:44

dd I am beginning to be resigned as I've said on another thread that there is a definite lurch to the right. I just hope it doesn't last too long.

At last.
It feels like a whole year goes by before people on the left accept what has already happened 12 months previously.

By that token, only 5 months more to go before the referendum result gets accepted! yay smile

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 18:56:52

ankers my comment had nothing to do with the referendum. This thread is about populism

daphnedill Tue 17-Jan-17 19:25:09

whitewave I, at least, would rather stick to the title of the thread. It seems we are living with the mentality of the lynch mobs, which is what populism is.

It really is amazing how some people would rather turn anything into their favourite hobby horse. I sometimes think they want to pick a fight for the sake of it. Ah well!

I have become resigned - if not reconciled - to it, because there's very little I can do. However, until I have my freedom of speech curtailed, I'm damned if I'll sit back and see/listen to people spouting rubbish.

daphnedill Tue 17-Jan-17 19:26:10

I have to say I'm somewhat baffled about who these 'people on the left' are.

Ankers Tue 17-Jan-17 19:35:36

It seems we are living with the mentality of the lynch mobs, which is what populism is.

But it is the democrats who are going to march?

whitewave Tue 17-Jan-17 20:03:34

dd absolutely. The debate will never cease. I will never be reconciled.

Iam64 Wed 18-Jan-17 12:37:00

Stop it with the faux innocence Ankers, we've heard it all before. The democrats will be joined by many others who share fear that Trump will not be a positive president for their country. Marching is nothing like a lynch mob, as well you know.

Ankers Wed 18-Jan-17 12:58:35

Marching is nothing like a lynch mob, as well you know.

Marching often turns into that, as you well know.

And while we are at it, which populism do you know of that turned into lynch mobs?

Ankers Wed 18-Jan-17 12:59:43

^ I will never be reconciled.^

How sad for you.

MaizieD Wed 18-Jan-17 13:13:08

Marching often turns into that, as you well know.

And while we are at it, which populism do you know of that turned into lynch mobs?

Having posted two quite contradictory statements in the same breath, so to speak, perhaps you could answer your own question for us, Ankers

daphnedill Wed 18-Jan-17 13:15:48

Don't even ask, MaizieD. Nobody is that ignorant. Lynch mobs were caused by populism - high levels of emotion without rational thought, as I'm sure ankers knows.

Mair Wed 18-Jan-17 13:41:38

"Lynch mobs were caused by populism - high levels of emotion without rational thought"

Do you consider 'populism' was to blame for this lynch mob?

www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/2261894.ten_jailed_for_hammer_attack/

Ankers Wed 18-Jan-17 13:43:49

No answers from MaizieD and dd. As I suspected, what Iam64 wrote is not right.

MaizieD Wed 18-Jan-17 14:04:00

I expect they just meant to give the lad a kicking, Mair..

No answer from you yet, either, Ankers

Ankers Wed 18-Jan-17 14:16:52

When I googled "marching turns into lynch mobs" there were far too many to list.
Take your pick.