Melania and equality

thatbags

Forgive me for asking you in person but what did you think of the Steve Bell / Guardian cartoon I have mentioned at 18.11 ?

I certainly don't believe in it being banned, taken down, anything like that, certainly not my style to censure. It was a cartoon I found to be 'wanting' especially given the so called credibility of the source.

Hope I am not being pushy in asking for your thought.

Haven't seen it yet, pogs. I'll go and have a look. I suspect, in advance, that even if I think it offensive I still Steve Bell has a right to draw it and get it published.

Modern stomachs are clearly not so strong as they were in the 18th century! Tastes in satire changes over time.

Agreed

Agreed, obviously to thatbags .

Oh so you don't agree with me then

Ah, yes, I had seen it. Probably via Twitter. Shrug. I think it's a revolting image. I do understand what it's 'saying', and I disagree. I have no problem with it being published. It's a political comment.

Snarking about Melania Trump's looks is not political comment. It's just bitching. If people want to bitch about her they have every right to do so but I can't help feeling they are doing themselves a disservice rather than her.

I think I can see what you're getting at though, pogs. Maybe the Steve Bell cartoon is political bitching. I suppose it is but it doesn't feel personal to me. I think he's attacking what he sees as the political position of the British Prime Minister with regard to the US President. Looks like old hat to me, only slightly different from the much scoffed at Blair and Bush 'relationship' because TM is a woman.

Thank you for replying thatbags.

"Oh no the argument used in every discussion about women since the year dot! Women who wear flat shoes are lesbians as well"

What was this in response to, trisher? Seems a bit out of the blue.

oh, I think I see... the not looking half as good remark.

Haha! I'll have you know I've been called a lesbian when out with a female friend (I always wear flat shoes and always have), I've been taken for a "laddy" (well, the laddy wasn't sure) when riding my bicycle, assumed to be a vegetarian (me!? ha! again), and called a hippy, which I'm not, loads of times.

I still think bitching about attractive women just because one can because she's in the public eye and because one doesn't like her husband's politics is based of envy. And is a bad reflection on the people who do it.

"But one Manchester man has already seen the dangers of telling lies on his CV.

In Manchester this year, Wade Jordan was jailed for three years for fraud and perverting the course of justice."

Just so you know it wasn't a lie or exaggeration, roses. Lying on your CV is fraud.
You can get up to ten years in jail for it in this country. Of course, being the first lady in America, it doesn't matter, does it?
I know which of the first ladies I'd rather my grandaughters thought about as a role model.

Yes, Theresa May certainly is indeed a good role model durhamjen, glad you realise that!

Which president is she married to ana?

Oh dear, as po-faced as ever!

(still waiting to hear about the 'violent language' some of us are supposed to have supported, but I won't hold my breath...)

What violent language?

Ask MaizieD.

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I can't imagine her using violent language.

Do you actually read threads before you comment, whitewave?

MaizieD Sat 28-Jan-17 18:27:00

Well I never! All this sanctimony from the posters who defended the use of violent language

So we're all in the dark as to this alleged 'violent language'.

All in the dark? Not in the dark at all. Just not as bothered as you.

I was replying to yours ana about me being po faced and then the use of violent language. I didn't realise that you were talking to someone else!!

Sounds like a storm in a teacup to me

Maybe she meant defending the use of torture? That sounds quite violent to me.

We don't know what Maizie meant at all, it was a weird remark....there has been no violent language that was defended by anybody.Nobody here has defended the use of torture either djen you are now casting about wildly for reasons.
The man who lied on his cv.......what job had he applied for that he was sent to prison, because we were talking about saying a person had a degree when they hadn't, you certainly don't get banged up for that! So, I am thinking it was something along the lines of driving a HGV or masquerading as a doctor/policeman?
People add all sorts to their cv to enhance it, so we are not talking 'normal' here are we?